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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by surge »

stormcrowsx wrote: post #86
ryanlol wrote: post #55

What the hell is a fake bomb? How does a schoolteacher know what a "bomb" looks like? Are we talking about an IED here? That could be literally any fucking thing. I really doubt that this clock looked even remotely like any of the industrially made ready-to-use explosives. Sometimes I can't help feeling like some people should be forcibly removed from the gene pool.

The ignorant portion of our society thinks bombs have flashing lights and tick thanks to Hollywood. In reality anyone wanting to do harm is not going to make their bomb noticeable. It reminds me of the Aqua Teen bomb scare back in 2007 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare

There was also the MIT student with an LED shirt that walked into an airport wearing it.

http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/06/03/mit_stu...

I'm pretty sure the apology was for a more lenient sentence.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by venomsnake »

carrja99 wrote: post #129

Well this is what happens when you blare Islamophobia from all the twenty-four hour "news" channels.

No, this is what happens when you have stupid police and school officials that are tough on everything. There are enough outrageous cases in the last year for students of a lot of different backgrounds.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by Jedd »

code_sterling wrote: post #123
vidarh wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intent is not to legally bind her, which it obviously wouldn't. Usually the idea of having a child sign too is the idea having a child explicitly agree makes them more likely to be invested in complying. Whether or not there's any evidence that works, I don't know, but it's not quite as stupid as it might seem at first glance.

No, it's as stupid as it sounds and your trying to rationalize stupid. She's 4.

you're, and he/she really isn't trying to rationalise it, just explain the thinking of the (stupid) people behind it.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the child in question is 4.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by disposition2 »

ams6110 wrote: post #30

Things are so different now. When I was in high school, all of the following were common: - Boys carrying pocket knives/hunting knives. - Boys with firearms in their cars/trucks so they could go hunting after school. - Access to a wide variety of chemicals in chemistry class. - Access to a wide variety of electrical and electronic components in physics class. - Access to a wide variety of power and machine tools in i…

See Columbine and the influx of 'zero tolerance'. I was actually in school to see the before and after, unfortunately, the after has become less tolerant and more reactionary and so we have what you see here (and really just about every day in the school year in the US you'll find a similar story).

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by Someone1234 »

ryanlol wrote: post #108
stormcrowsx wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ignorant portion of our society thinks bombs have flashing lights and tick thanks to Hollywood. In reality anyone wanting to do harm is not going to make their bomb noticeable. It reminds me of the Aqua Teen bomb scare back in 2007 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare

Even then, for an IED to actually be of any use it needs to have an explosive compound, likely in a container of some kind. Anyone with half a brain would understand that you can't just magically make circuitry explode. That's a whole new level of ignorance, they teach this stuff in elementary school for gods sake.

> Anyone with half a brain

That's the problem right there. These people have let their common sense be overtaken by their sense of fear, they're so afraid they aren't thinking.

That's why going after a 9 year old or MIT student with a t-shirt[0] makes sense, because they literally aren't thinking straight because they're so convinced there is a threat around every corner (thanks mass media!).

[0] https://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by teach »

sakri wrote: post #141

This story is at 1 and 2 on both reddit and Hacker News. Why is this so interesting?

I don't understand it either.

One-off events in the world don't really interest me. I believe that on any given day in the US, some public school administrator does something stupid where a student is involved. And also the majority of public school administrators are very competent and handle similar situations without blowing things out of proportion.

There's no evidence of a trend. This isn't a sign of a shift in culture or of the impending [DOOMSDAY SCENARIO].

I just ignore the headline and move on.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by dalke »

Navarr wrote: post #67
bkor wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really mean suspending him is not so terrible because it was only 3 days? I hope I'm misunderstanding you. The child learns to not trust anyone and that his best intentions are twisted into punishment. I'm pretty appalled by this.

To explain myself, in a Texas Highschool I was sentenced to In School Suspension INDEFINITELY with my laptop confiscated for having shortcuts to directories on the network that I "shouldn't have had access to." After about a week of that I'd had enough, asked for OSS - got it, which I thought was enough but apparently wasn't. They ended up wanting to reassign me to an "alternative school" (the type with a dress code,…

And getting only a few toes amputated due to gangrene would be lovely to someone who lost a leg for the same reason. That doesn't mean losing a few toes isn't terrible.

I don't think it would be hard to find people who would have rather have faced what you suffered than what they went through. (Kalief Browder might have been one.) That doesn't mean they would be right to say that what happened to you was "lovely."

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by Someone1234 »

vatotemking wrote: post #115
ceejayoz wrote: post #11

> Children are encouraged “specifically [to] not bring items to school that are prohibited.” What, clocks? Or the NASA t-shirt he was wearing? ( https://i.imgur.com/PMgDR7m.jpg )

Why is he handcuffed?

I don't understand why US schools have police in them, and they put little kids in handcuffs. It insanity.
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