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Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by current_call »

criley2 wrote: post #156
pound wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not just closure of mental-health institution. You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values. Here is a bit of context for often mentioned closure of mental hospitals/services: at first there was a decision NOT to force anyone with mental issues to be admitted into such establishments against their will unless they dangerous to themself/others. And only ofter that closures of half-empty at tha…

" You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values." LOL - no. Liberal values include state housing which is proven time and time again to end mass homelessness at a smaller cost than the law enforcement, judicial and social cost of managing homeless populations. Liberal values strongly support taking from the rich to support the poor, including the mentally ill and homeless. You do not see many liber…

Not everyone in our society will or can work, and those who don't are lucky enough to be supported privately or publically or they're eventually homeless. This is the reality of a conservative value system.

That's not the reality of a conservative value system. That's just reality.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by elloworld1 »

criley2 wrote: post #156
pound wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not just closure of mental-health institution. You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values. Here is a bit of context for often mentioned closure of mental hospitals/services: at first there was a decision NOT to force anyone with mental issues to be admitted into such establishments against their will unless they dangerous to themself/others. And only ofter that closures of half-empty at tha…

" You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values." LOL - no. Liberal values include state housing which is proven time and time again to end mass homelessness at a smaller cost than the law enforcement, judicial and social cost of managing homeless populations. Liberal values strongly support taking from the rich to support the poor, including the mentally ill and homeless. You do not see many liber…

pretty sure he means classical liberal values, not the last 20 years liberal definition

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by pound »

criley2 wrote: post #156
pound wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not just closure of mental-health institution. You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values. Here is a bit of context for often mentioned closure of mental hospitals/services: at first there was a decision NOT to force anyone with mental issues to be admitted into such establishments against their will unless they dangerous to themself/others. And only ofter that closures of half-empty at tha…

" You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values." LOL - no. Liberal values include state housing which is proven time and time again to end mass homelessness at a smaller cost than the law enforcement, judicial and social cost of managing homeless populations. Liberal values strongly support taking from the rich to support the poor, including the mentally ill and homeless. You do not see many liber…

in that line I was talking about liberal values as a cause of closing mental health institutions. See parent I was replying to.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by tptacek »

antirez wrote: post #160
tptacek wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During the time you worked with them, did you contribute to projects you knew were used by LEOs and intelligence agencies? I'm curious about whether they got into "darker" stuff as they progressed.

No, that was a different company. We did plain penetration testings and other Security Firm works like firewalling, hardening. They sold this company, and started the new gig later when I was already gone for years.

Gotcha. Thanks! That sounds a little like what happened with HBGary (which used to be a pretty tame place that random software security worked).

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Post by belorn »

Fede_V wrote: post #91

I do not want to sound shockingly naive, but I wonder how these people can sleep at night. You've just sold software to some of the most brutal governments in the world, who will use your technology to track down and brutally torture incredibly brave human rights activists. How can you do this, and still get up in the morning while looking at yourself in the mirror? I can understand petty crime if the alternative is…

They are very similar to military contractors and weapon manufacturers, except that their industry has so far no regulations that prevents them for selling their product to anyone that has money to spend. Government could start defining this kind of tools as weapons but that prevent them for using it on their own population, and weapon trade is a very high profit industry.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by ikeboy »

nohostname wrote: post #124

i wonder who is behind this massive hack, is it a positive or even worst group? i wouldn't want to be in the private pictures leaked once the world knows you are responsable for torture and murder of potential innocent people, very nasty karma

According to https://twitter.com/lorenzoFB/status/618060756198772736, it's the same guy who hacked finfisher a year ago.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by pound »

pound wrote: post #163
criley2 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values." LOL - no. Liberal values include state housing which is proven time and time again to end mass homelessness at a smaller cost than the law enforcement, judicial and social cost of managing homeless populations. Liberal values strongly support taking from the rich to support the poor, including the mentally ill and homeless. You do not see many liber…

in that line I was talking about liberal values as a cause of closing mental health institutions. See parent I was replying to.

I'll paraphrase it for you: psychos on streets are caused not by closure of mental health institutions, but by decision not to put them there in the first place. Closing of empty hospital after that was just a question of time.

to clarify it further: I'm not trying to talk about homelessness in general. That's very complex subject. State housing - haha, welcome to 6th street/any sro in tenderloin, tell me how great that solution is.

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Post by jessedhillon »

chinathrow wrote: post #105
kisil_reboot wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a wide range of moral gray area there. Imagine, e.g., a US contractor who builds converters that make dumb bombs into smart bombs. The US is going to bomb people anyway; better that they hit fewer non-targets along the way.

> The US is going to bomb people anyway; better that they hit fewer non-targets along the way. This has been used as a talking point pro smart bombs for some time now - and yet we have still bombings of weddings with a civilian hit rate of nearly 100%. Killing is is still killing, no matter how smart the weapon is.

I think you should check out how bombing was conducted before the introduction of the smart bomb. We used to intentionally and systematically destroy entire civilian populations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World...

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by ocschwar »

DCoder wrote: post #147
doki_pen wrote: post #141

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I was under the impression that they were planting files on the user's computer to incriminate them. I don't really understand where this code is getting it's payload from though.

It seems like that code just builds random-ish data that conforms to the wanted file format and then gives it incriminating names. For example: [1] https://github.com/hackedteam/rcs-common/blob/38290d4eab2b2c... [2] https://github.com/hackedteam/rcs-common/blob/38290d4eab2b2c...

I would guess that's part of a codebase for generating sales demos before LEOs.

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Post by DanBC »

pound wrote: post #167
pound wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in that line I was talking about liberal values as a cause of closing mental health institutions. See parent I was replying to.

I'll paraphrase it for you: psychos on streets are caused not by closure of mental health institutions, but by decision not to put them there in the first place. Closing of empty hospital after that was just a question of time. to clarify it further: I'm not trying to talk about homelessness in general. That's very complex subject. State housing - haha, welcome to 6th street/any sro in tenderloin, tell me how great t…

How does that work for countries that still have mental health care, that is free and reasonably easy to access?
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