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What Twitter Can Be

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Re: What Twitter Can Be

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The same way everyone else does: 1) Ads via the in-line feeds [removing ads is a ToS violation, same way the real world ad networks now is basically a js/link configuration...can sell CPC this way] 2) Charge for API calls. 3) Charge for "premium membership" that unlocks the api at like $10/user/year

Who do you charge for the API calls?

I'd gladly pay for premium API access as a Twitter user which would then allow me to use third party apps.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#162

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The same way everyone else does: 1) Ads via the in-line feeds [removing ads is a ToS violation, same way the real world ad networks now is basically a js/link configuration...can sell CPC this way] 2) Charge for API calls. 3) Charge for "premium membership" that unlocks the api at like $10/user/year

Who do you charge for the API calls?

2) Charge for API calls.

--- For in-house development and/or SaaS software that interfaces with Twitter. Even something like $.10 per 1,000 requests would add up pretty fast for large deployments.

Example? http://freshdesk.com/integrations/help-desk-ticketing-twitte...

These people could be milked by Twitter. Its a SaaS webapp so they can protect their API access.

3) Charge for "premium membership" that unlocks the api at like $10/user/year

--- app piracy isn't an issue if a user is paying to unlock the API for their account

Also, if app piracy is an issue because they can get ahold of your API keys, that just means you need to route it through your internal API and secure things properly. It isn't Twitters job to fix the fact you don't want to have any infrastructure.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#163

of course the author misses the biggest reason twitter sucks. Abuse, fake accounts, and trolling cause more "authentic" real name users to leave every day. Twitter does nothing to punish people who can just grab a picture of you from the net, create and account and start ruining your reputation instantly. And we all know you can't win against a troll unless you out troll them with your own bots. Twitter is the staine…

The idea of an everyone-can-talk-to-everyone social network is initially appealing. You can write (and there were) thousands of articles about twitter extolling the virtues of the "internet community" or "the conversation" and "personal brands." It was all very 1995 internet enthusiasm with a new coat of paint. Then everyone tried it, and it turns out nobody wants to hear from everybody. Trolls/abuse/whatever aren't…

This is very true, not just in Twitter but in real life as well. Most people just want to talk, they don't really want to listen to what you have to say.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#164

of course the author misses the biggest reason twitter sucks. Abuse, fake accounts, and trolling cause more "authentic" real name users to leave every day. Twitter does nothing to punish people who can just grab a picture of you from the net, create and account and start ruining your reputation instantly. And we all know you can't win against a troll unless you out troll them with your own bots. Twitter is the staine…

Examples of this actually happening? Genuinely curious, as I've never heard of this phenomenon.

I think you can simply google Dick Costolo and hear him say it directly about 100 times.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#165

of course the author misses the biggest reason twitter sucks. Abuse, fake accounts, and trolling cause more "authentic" real name users to leave every day. Twitter does nothing to punish people who can just grab a picture of you from the net, create and account and start ruining your reputation instantly. And we all know you can't win against a troll unless you out troll them with your own bots. Twitter is the staine…

Unusable? I'm sure there's a lot of noise for people that have a decent following, but I think most people don't have these problems. Certainly not to the extent that the entire platform is unusable.

personally I couldn't care less about Twitter, used it once or twice and bailed, but usually when the CEO tells you its a BIG problem... http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/4/7982099/twitter-ceo-sent-me...

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#166

of course the author misses the biggest reason twitter sucks. Abuse, fake accounts, and trolling cause more "authentic" real name users to leave every day. Twitter does nothing to punish people who can just grab a picture of you from the net, create and account and start ruining your reputation instantly. And we all know you can't win against a troll unless you out troll them with your own bots. Twitter is the staine…

The idea of an everyone-can-talk-to-everyone social network is initially appealing. You can write (and there were) thousands of articles about twitter extolling the virtues of the "internet community" or "the conversation" and "personal brands." It was all very 1995 internet enthusiasm with a new coat of paint. Then everyone tried it, and it turns out nobody wants to hear from everybody. Trolls/abuse/whatever aren't…

So lets see. in about 30 minutes I can deck into the Twitter API and create about 100 accounts and cron job your Twitter account for a post and then inundate you with thousands of crazy insults from random accounts. I can do all of this because you said you didn't like blue cheese and I for one sir think you are an IDIOT and should be taught a severe lesson for not liking blue cheese. ~Twitter Reality.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#167

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Examples of this actually happening? Genuinely curious, as I've never heard of this phenomenon.

I think you can simply google Dick Costolo and hear him say it directly about 100 times.

That search actually turns up nothing of the kind, but googling for Twitter impostors and Twitter impersonation resulted in scads of relevant stories. I was totally unaware of this behavior. It's kind of fascinating, and sad, and infuriating.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#168

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The idea of an everyone-can-talk-to-everyone social network is initially appealing. You can write (and there were) thousands of articles about twitter extolling the virtues of the "internet community" or "the conversation" and "personal brands." It was all very 1995 internet enthusiasm with a new coat of paint. Then everyone tried it, and it turns out nobody wants to hear from everybody. Trolls/abuse/whatever aren't…

So lets see. in about 30 minutes I can deck into the Twitter API and create about 100 accounts and cron job your Twitter account for a post and then inundate you with thousands of crazy insults from random accounts. I can do all of this because you said you didn't like blue cheese and I for one sir think you are an IDIOT and should be taught a severe lesson for not liking blue cheese. ~Twitter Reality.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I understand what your post is trying to say.

I just see a non sequitur about twitter abuse. Did you interpret when I said abuse is not THE problem with twitter, that I meant I don't find abuse on twitter to be A problem?

That wasn't what I was trying to say, but otherwise I'm confused as to how your post is a reply to mine.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#169

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So lets see. in about 30 minutes I can deck into the Twitter API and create about 100 accounts and cron job your Twitter account for a post and then inundate you with thousands of crazy insults from random accounts. I can do all of this because you said you didn't like blue cheese and I for one sir think you are an IDIOT and should be taught a severe lesson for not liking blue cheese. ~Twitter Reality.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I understand what your post is trying to say. I just see a non sequitur about twitter abuse. Did you interpret when I said abuse is not THE problem with twitter, that I meant I don't find abuse on twitter to be A problem? That wasn't what I was trying to say, but otherwise I'm confused as to how your post is a reply to mine.

Satire is not your strong point?

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So lets see. in about 30 minutes I can deck into the Twitter API and create about 100 accounts and cron job your Twitter account for a post and then inundate you with thousands of crazy insults from random accounts. I can do all of this because you said you didn't like blue cheese and I for one sir think you are an IDIOT and should be taught a severe lesson for not liking blue cheese. ~Twitter Reality.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I understand what your post is trying to say. I just see a non sequitur about twitter abuse. Did you interpret when I said abuse is not THE problem with twitter, that I meant I don't find abuse on twitter to be A problem? That wasn't what I was trying to say, but otherwise I'm confused as to how your post is a reply to mine.

Just in case you don't get it. This is the typical train of thinking on Twitter. You say something intelligent looking for conversation, and eventually you are going to run into the crazies on the platform just looking to broadcast thoughts that have nothing to do with the original point and then quickly turns into negative, abusive slop. (the blue cheese remark should have clued you in.) I understand fully what you are saying, but respectfully disagree. Clearly tales of abuse and outright ugly human behaviour turn millions upon millions of core users off the platform. This has been said a dozen times by Dick Costello himself. That being said, I can see your point, and will pontificate on it.
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