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Re: The Apple Watch

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GuiA wrote: post #46
tw04 wrote: post #22

It actually kind of saddens me to read his summary of how touch will be "awesome". A teenager is afraid to talk to a girl he likes so he sends her what amounts to a text on his watch? It feels like humans keep building more and more barriers to ACTUAL communication. I can't help but think at some point it will have serious negative effects on the human race. Part of growing up and maturing is learning to deal with di…

I was the typical nerdy, shy, socially inept teenager who read the z80 instruction set documentation alone at the cafeteria during lunch. In the 10th grade there was this girl I really liked, but my complete lack of social skills prevented me from acting upon it. I forget how, but I eventually found a way to add her on MSN messenger, where we spent many evenings and weekends chatting. This allowed me to get over my i…

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Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by bla2 »

7Z7 wrote: post #147
bla2 wrote: post #34

It's interesting that even gruber's review isn't all that positive.

>even gruber.. I don't think Gruber is particularly biased about Apple - they're just his area of speciality. He thinks very deeply about them, and has done for such a long time that he has an acute sense of them. But I think he calls them out fairly when he thinks they're wrong, whether that's policy decisions, devices, or software.

That's not wrong, but Apple's the only company he's treating fairly. So it's still "writing on a curve", if you will.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by kbd »

clarky07 wrote: post #148
milesokeefe wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wear my Pebble every night when sleeping. It's fantastic backup alarm, I never have to worry about forgetting to set my phone's alarm, not hearing my phone, my phone dying, etc. At this point I wouldn't go back to using a watch with less than a few days battery life, it takes out a huge part of the value for me.

see, and i have the opposite problem with my pebble. since it isn't part of my daily charging routine, it inevitably dies because i forget about charging it ever. I'd be better off including it my daily charging routine.

> it inevitably dies because i forget about charging it ever

How is that possible? It gives you ample low battery alerts.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by gburt »

mschuster91 wrote: post #159

A bit of sidelined, but still... > You simply hold the connector near the back of the watch, where magnets cause it to snap into place automatically. I would instantly buy a phone without a traditional connector port for headphone and USB - just metal pads flush with the surface (maybe laid in rubber to be watertight) and kept aligned by magnets. Seriously, the amount of devices failed due to either bent (e.g. during…

My Mio watch connects to its charger this way too. In the image below, you see both the heart rate monitor and the charging port (which attaches to a magnetic piece that connects to the wall).

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/images/2014/08/IMG_8187.jpg

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by sylvinus »

> Imagine: You’re 16. You’re in school. You’re sitting in class.

Honestly, I think it's impossible for anyone above ~25 to imagine what it's like to be 16 in school today.

Context and social dynamics have changed too much for anyone that old (and probably anyone at all) to be insightful about the behaviour of groups of teenagers using a yet unreleased product.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by tptacek »

bitsoda wrote: post #21

Gruber's scenario with the two high school kids sending each other love taps, scribbles, and heartbeats was poignant. While the Apple Watch isn't for me, I can't begrudge those who decide to buy one. I think back to the late 90s and how I wouldn't have met my wife if not for IMing a screenname a mutual friend of ours passed along to me. The internet, a crappy eMachines desktop, and AIM made this possible. Technically…

Gruber's scenario with the two high school kids was probably the worst thing he's ever written. There needs to be an annual 500-word short story writing competition, for best story turning on the sentence "But you both wore an Apple Watch".

I say this as someone who generally admires John Gruber's ability to sell me on 1000-2000 word blog posts on Apple minutia purely on the strength and clarity of his writing. This post was painful.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by steveklabnik »

51Cards wrote: post #136

Article aside for a moment, I find it fascinating that with this release so many people are discussing smart watches and their interfaces as something completely new with no established precedents. I've had my Pebble for almost 2 years now and my LG G watch for about 8 months. From my perspective this seems like a late-comer to a market that is already well under-way? I would expect more existing market comparison co…

Gruber explicitly discusses this in the piece, see the bit about 'Apple seemingly tries to enter markets at, or just after, that tipping point'.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by prawn »

eridius wrote: post #123
bitsoda wrote: post #21

Gruber's scenario with the two high school kids sending each other love taps, scribbles, and heartbeats was poignant. While the Apple Watch isn't for me, I can't begrudge those who decide to buy one. I think back to the late 90s and how I wouldn't have met my wife if not for IMing a screenname a mutual friend of ours passed along to me. The internet, a crappy eMachines desktop, and AIM made this possible. Technically…

When Apple Watch was first announced, while everyone else was busy rolling their eyes at Digital Touch, I immediately started looking forward to using it with my wife. We're both planning on getting the watch, and I fully expect that—even after the initial novelty has worn off—we'll be using Digital Touch repeatedly throughout the day, both as just a way to keep in contact, and as a way to non-intrusively request the…

From The Verge review, that feature actually sounds a bit painful to use.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by prawn »

51Cards wrote: post #136

Article aside for a moment, I find it fascinating that with this release so many people are discussing smart watches and their interfaces as something completely new with no established precedents. I've had my Pebble for almost 2 years now and my LG G watch for about 8 months. From my perspective this seems like a late-comer to a market that is already well under-way? I would expect more existing market comparison co…

I suspect Apple have somehow framed the product for reviewers so the alternatives in the market don't come to mind, even if the reviewers don't realise that they're ignoring them.

As one example, they could've picked recipients who they know haven't previously worn a smart watch.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by prawn »

roc wrote: post #61

Designing a 2015 smartwatch to fit the expectations of dumb-watches feels more and more to me like designing a 2007 smartphone to fit the expectations of the blackberry crowd (physical keyboard, removable battery). The digital crown looks like one such mistake. Swipe-to-scroll is so natural, particularly at this point, that moving back to an indirect method of scrolling seems just wrong . And doing so on a device tha…

I've also been surprised that they maintained the same form factor of existing watches. If it were double the width, you'd have more screen space, more space for battery power underneath and something that would stand out.

I can only imagine they are marketing first to the people who want something new, but don't want it to look like new technology.

It's probably also important as a point of differentiation that they keep it looking very different to a phone screen.

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