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Announcing the Surface 3

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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You got me there. My point, as you no doubt know, was that they're advertising a low headline price and then jacking it up with 'optional' extras that provide core functionality.

Do ipads or other competitors come with keyboards, pens, covers? Seems they are right in the market then doesn't it?

No, but they also aren't shown on the company's product page with a keyboard in the photo and "Great pen experience" as a subheader.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/ vs http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Does anyone know if the 256GB SSD is user upgradable to 512GB. The price difference looks too much?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: The Surface 3 Pro had an SSD that could in theory be upgraded, but it required some serious disassembling to pop the display off, and even the ifixit guys couldn't pull it off without breaking at least one screen.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Pro+3+Tear...

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I really can't even use a computer that's less than 4 gb these days, especially once chrome gets it's grubby hands all over my RAM. Just running baseline I find that most windows systems take up about two GB of RAM, and after you load up chrome, word, whatever; it hits the 4GB+ range. I mean, we're starting to see phones with 2GB of ram, it's completely unacceptable for a modern tablet.

8 GB is absolute bare minimum in 2015 (I'd say 2012 but the world seems to disagree). I'd be very hesitant buying something today that didn't have 16 GB. Unfortunately that is quite hard to come by in the ultrabook range. But 2 GB? And maximum 4 ? Just kills me inside. Way to ruin the device.

I don't have anything with more than 4GB. I use Linux often, but my main driver is a Windows tablet (Acer Iconia W700). I used many applications at a time, including stuff like Eclipse, and occasionally a Debian VM with 2GB assigned. I have no trouble with 4GB of RAM, although I was forced to switch away from Chrome. IE11 and Firefox work great though.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

Is it any different from from the Macbook versus Macbook Pro? Massively different devices. The odd duck out is the Surface RT line, which seems to be abandoned now, removing that confusion.

There is nothing that runs on one Mac that doesn't run on all the others. Apple's device classes are getting confusing, but at least everything in a category has access to the full ecosystem (either iOS or OS X).

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

Surface 3, Surface Pro 3, Surface 2 RT, uhh... Well, at least it is better than before, when people bought a Surface tablet expecting it to run regular x86 desktop applications, because Windows. Having nearly the same name (Surface RT vs. Surface Pro) didn't really help.

Microsoft has taken a leaf out of Apple's book and simplified product lines and names, and are up front about availability and configurations. Other PC and laptop manufacturers seem to go out of their way to make things as confusing for the consumer as possible. I was briefly contemplating getting the Asus Zenbook UX305 but it is available in different configurations in (different) global markets, with the European market seemingly getting a very raw deal in terms of RAM and SSD size. As always it is unclear where I should buy them (obligatory nonfunctioning map with resellers on their website) and when they are available. They also have way too many different models available. I swear I will never buy anything again from manufacturers that do this.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Slightly off-topic, but my wife needs a new PC with pen input (as she needs to draw a lot). Does anyone with an Atom tablet happen to know if this will work with Photoshop (it's the heaviest program she'll be using)? If not what are the alternatives? I heard the Lenovo Yoga 2 is better than the Surface Pro 3 but I'm terribly out of the topic since a while now.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Is it any different from from the Macbook versus Macbook Pro? Massively different devices. The odd duck out is the Surface RT line, which seems to be abandoned now, removing that confusion.

There is nothing that runs on one Mac that doesn't run on all the others. Apple's device classes are getting confusing, but at least everything in a category has access to the full ecosystem (either iOS or OS X).

Well, you can't run iPad apps on an iPhone. Unless they are universal. But you can run iPhone apps on an iPad.

So not exactly simple.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

I'm curious, what specifically about SP3 improved your experience?

Wifi drivers for one. They were awful at launch.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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> I already have an iPad that's full size and while it was very nice, I don't use it very much. The iPad is a content consumption device. The Surface is both a content creation device AND content consumption device. For example, if I want to run a IDE on an iPad then I'm ultimately using a highly interactive web-site even if that website is presented within an app. On the Surface I can run pretty much anything: Netbe…

>> On the Surface I can run pretty much anything: Netbeans, Visual Studio, Notepad++, Sublime, and so on. Heck I can install Linux if I wanted and use VIM or emacs (assuming the keyboard is connected). This is kind of a "just because you can doesn't mean you should" thing -- at least if your main use case for the device is as a developer machine. Notepad++ and Sublime should run quite fast on an Atom, but the other t…

I can't speak to Netbeans, but I think Visual Studio would run pretty well as long as you have enough RAM and assuming the SSD in the Surface 3 is not pitiful.
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