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Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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Deal velocity. An "all cash" offer at 1% less than asking is more attractive to the seller's agent (not necessarily the seller) than a loan-process-backed offer, because the agent wants to close quickly and move onto the next deal. The loan process adds days and weeks to the deal, while the "cash" offer can literally close tomorrow. I'm scare quoting "cash" because what is really happening most of the time is the cas…

> not necessarily the seller Usually the seller too. A quick tip for those in the market. If you're trying to beat out cash offers, there's a sweet spot in every market where after a certain price point, the cash buyers drop off.

My understanding of the Austin market (please correct me if you know otherwise, I was just an interested observer of the market so as to educate myself before pulling the trigger, not an active participant) is there are two such sweet spots: well below the Austin median (like the $150K area), and way into the stratosphere (like the $1.5M+ area).

Below the median, the fixed costs and time commitments per transaction eat up too much of the flipping profit. In the stratosphere, and their deal velocity slows down too much (plus there are issues with money management, i.e., left holding the bag when the bottom cycle arrives).

Neither of these sweet spots to avoid hordes of cash buyers are likely to appeal to the median HN reader trying to find a residence in Austin. Too low and either the school district is below acceptable performance and/or the commute distance too far (though Austin metro area has it easy commute time-wise compared to places like LA, SF, NYC, ORD, MIA). Too high and unless you are cashing out of an even greater asset-inflated area, you can't afford it.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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I wouldn't tout Denver's public transit system as an upside of living here. It's just marginally better than the awful road system, so it gets the benefit of looking better by comparison.

Really? I live like half a mile from a light rail station and I'm right next to a bus stop and I'm super happy with our public transportation. In addition my walk score is through the roof. Also our roads are fantastic even if 25 can be a bit of a bear. I think it's all about perspective. I'm from Chicago originally where it was an hour + commute.

even if 25 can be a bit of a bear

When your only means of travel is bad, your whole system is bad.

I'm glad that you've found a solution that works for you. I've had the misfortune to be subjected to public transport as a daily necessity, so I'm not as enthusiastic as you are about it.

Also, I work just off of 70, and my wife works in DTC. So there really aren't any good compromises for living that give us both decent commute time.

I understand that the whole vibe in the metro is built for the more hipster-ish living style. I just don't really fit into that, so what fundamentally matters to me is not great, and that colors my perceptions I guess.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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This is a common refrain, but one I consider misguided, having lived in Austin since the first .com collapse. While Yes, housing costs have moved up, others have remained flat (so relatively compared to other cities, have moved down). As silly as it sounds, my favorite metric is "Cost of Drinking". Find the fancy cocktail bars in any city's downtown. In Austin, nothing on the menu is above $12 at Midnight Cowboy or T…

It's true that cocktails are extremely high quality in NY and generally the same price as they are elsewhere. That said, you can't get a $2 Shiner Bock here.

Please tell me where to get a $2 Shiner.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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post #139

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>I was shopping for a house a few months ago, and was simply unable to buy one; those in my price range wouldn't accept my offer because it wasn't an all-cash offer I don't understand this. If you're pre-qualified for a $500,000 dollar loan how is your offer worse than someone willing to pay $495,000 cash?

Deal velocity. An "all cash" offer at 1% less than asking is more attractive to the seller's agent (not necessarily the seller) than a loan-process-backed offer, because the agent wants to close quickly and move onto the next deal. The loan process adds days and weeks to the deal, while the "cash" offer can literally close tomorrow. I'm scare quoting "cash" because what is really happening most of the time is the cas…

There is also the fact that "pre-qualified" != "pre-approved". It is quite possible these days for a loan to be rejected at the last minute.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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That's only a thing for people who live in NYC, Chicago, and maybe the Bay. The rest of us still need cars. I live pretty far away but my commute to Pittsburgh is ~2 hours each way.

And Boston, Philly, and most of the rest of the world :)

and DC.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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I remember once meeting an old high school friend in NYC. He was hanging out at one of those non-descript but unfathomably loud bars. Some of his coworkers stopped by. The conversation switched to the car one of them had bought. A Lexus SC430 convertible. He was complaining about how he never got to get out of The City and drive it enough. They were all super-sharp CS graduates working for one of the most successful…

>With the $125k-$140k salaries some software developers report making, they are barely getting to "enjoy" living in NYC.

This is laughable, have you ever lived in NYC?

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Sorry, the trivial amount of people using noscript is simply unimportant to me.

This attitude is, quite frankly, pathetic. People have no respect for their craft.

On the contrary! We just conceive it differently than you :)

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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I love how "put up with car culture" is a thing for our generation. Previous generation it would be "put up with not being able to drive". I'm fighting a losing battle against life in the suburbs but my one hope is that by the time I give in, I can commute in a self-driving car.

That's only a thing for people who live in NYC, Chicago, and maybe the Bay. The rest of us still need cars. I live pretty far away but my commute to Pittsburgh is ~2 hours each way.

I am also semi car-free in Seattle and can attest to a very satisfying quality of life. I moved here last year.

If anyone is toying with moving here and has questions: chris.laidlaw@socrata.com.

(We're hiring!)

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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No mention of Pittsburgh! We have a fairly low cost-of-living and decent salaries for tech.

I'm from there originally, and I agree, but the weather really is a problem. It's terrible. I live in Portland now, an area renowned for its gray rainy days and lack of sunlight. And yet, it has been 50º-60º and sunny for nearly a month now. Whenever I check Pittsburgh it's hovering around 0º. It's really a shame because I love Pittsburgh.
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