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#161
To contact everyone I know I need:

* Skype

* XMPP

* Hangouts

* AIM

* YIM

* SMS

* Facebook

* IRC

* Viber (which I don't use, because yet another client was too much when all these people had other clients anyway).

Another client is just a no go at this stage. I'm still annoyed at Skype blocking both multiple network IM clients I used (imo first, then when they dropped the whole "multiple network" part, IM+).

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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So in the age of Edward Snowden this is all they say about encryption... "Are Messages And Calls Encrypted? Yes. Wire uses industry-standard encryption on all of your Wire messages and calls." "WHAT SECURITY MEASURES DO WE TAKE TO SAFEGUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION? We are concerned about safeguarding the confidentiality of your information. We provide physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect infor…

You should consider that most other messengers offer no such promises, even vague ones.

What? Skype offers the exact same vague promises, and they are even technically true.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

#163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. The usual negative HN top post. I have to disagree. We've moved from irc, to ICQ, to Microsoft Messenger, to ..., to Skype, to (what's hot now), so somehow all those people really DID want another messaging app and even adopted one. > It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. Most of th…

> We've moved from irc, to ICQ, to Microsoft Messenger, to ..., to Skype, to (what's hot now) You forgot Hangouts, which works on Android, iOS, and the desktop. It supports text, voice, and video, just like Wire. Its only negative from my personal viewpoint is no Windows Phone support, but that OS is the punchline of many jokes these days. There's also Slack for businesses, non-profits, and private groups (my local I…

>You forgot Hangouts, which works on Android, iOS, and the desktop. It supports text, voice, and video, just like Wire.

So that would be the "what's hot now".

I didn't mention it because few people I know use it. And I wouldn't touch it a Google + Google+ affilicated messaging solution with a 10-feet pole anyway...

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been in Brazil for the past five weeks. EVERYONE uses whatsapp, because SMS is expensive. And this all happened in the past couple of years or so, because that's when smartphones became widespread. I have never been asked my phone number. I've only been asked my "whatsapp". Make a good enough messaging app, and you can win an entire country. Or the world.

Did they ever fix the massive security hole(s?) in whatsapp?

What massive security holes?

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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post #147

I signed up and downloaded the app (android). 1. The App uses different non-standard patterns. It's really a pain to use and navigate. 2. The design is cool and I like it. 3. I should be able to find users by ID or similar. Who wants to test this thing can add me (contact -at- omarabid.com )

4. You can't seem to actually call phones, which is why everyone uses Skype. Or did I miss something?

Notably, all videochat apps makes desktops super hot while their mobile equivalent works fine. My humble guess is because on iOS/Android they are using the hardware accelerated codecs (due to the lack of other options), while on desktop they just assume the CPU can do everything. I will be interested to see how Wire performs in that regard.

I am doing a lot telecommuting and have a frequently remote relationship, so I try a bunch of these apps. Here is the thing: I don't care about beautiful interfaces when it comes to full screen videochat.

So far the best experience I had was with oovoo, which was simultaneously the ugliest software at the time. Perhaps Wire will be successful for the same reason Slack is: it just works (I have yet to see).

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

#167

No, the Skype killer has another name: WebRTC. And Wire seems like yet another closed-source GUI making use of the WebRTC stack. I honestly prefer FOSS solutions: Tox, oTalk, Jitsi, etc... oTalk looks really promising

What about matrix.org who's trying to fix the fragmentation by providing an open standardized signalling layer for WebRTC? Might interest you too! We've been working on integrating with Jitsi, although not finished yet

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Hmm, no Linux client ... and you 'have' to set a picture when you register? Really? I'm out.

No OSX Lion compatibility too. And they've put it on App Store as if it's the only way to distribute it. Looks like a BS.

It doesn't run on GS/OS either. Unbelievable.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

#169

"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.

I feel that sentiment. It's not that I mind people doing new apps in already crowded market segments - it's that messaging apps, like social networking sites, work on network effect. I don't want a new messaging app for the same reason I don't want a new Facebook - the existing one is awesome enough, new ones don't offer anything interesting, and I definitely don't feel like rebuilding my contact lists every other year.

In this way, a new app is a danger not only to the maker of an old app, it's a danger to the client as well.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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post #161

To contact everyone I know I need: * Skype * XMPP * Hangouts * AIM * YIM * SMS * Facebook * IRC * Viber (which I don't use, because yet another client was too much when all these people had other clients anyway). Another client is just a no go at this stage. I'm still annoyed at Skype blocking both multiple network IM clients I used (imo first, then when they dropped the whole "multiple network" part, IM+).

If Skype allowed that (without having to run the original client), they wouldn't make any money.

On a related note, is there any multi network app that supports video?

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