Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

Post by Svip » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:13 PM UTC

erikb wrote: post #143

cs702 wrote: post #134

Wow, all evidence suggests that the team in charge of this at Groupon is acting in bad faith, trying to bulldoze over a non-profit with fewer financial resources. (I doubt Groupon would ever attempt something like this against a financially-well-backed brand such as, say, "Apple.") Consider: (1) it's essentially impossible that no one involved had ever heard of the Gnome desktop (it's the top result when I search for…

I agree with 2 but not with 1. I think there are loads of people out there who have heard that there is something like Linux, but have never used it. If you never used any *nix you probably don't even know that desktop environments can be switched or changed. Then how would you know about a specific desktop environment? Not accepting to respect a 17 year old trademark is very, very bad though.

Post by nikolak » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:20 PM UTC

alexholehouse wrote: post #152

JoshTriplett wrote: post #96

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It seems to be based on iOS.

Wait what? They built an 'iOS based operating system'? I don't understand how that would be possible?

Post by WoodenChair » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:22 PM UTC

jordigh wrote: post #139

JoshTriplett wrote: post #131

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> Why that amount of money? Our counsel has advised us that we will need that much to oppose the registration of the first set of 10 trademark applications. > Is that how much the SFLC needs? I assume you're picking the SFLC to represent you, right? We're currently working with pro-bono counsel from an independent attorney. The amount is how much we've been advised that we'll need to successfully defend the trademark…

> The thought is appreciated, but if you're talking about funds donated to GNU Octave, I don't think that'd be appropriate. The funds were donated to the FSF for Octave. However, many of us in Octave use Gnome, so I could see a point in saying that we in Octave need to ensure that Gnome works well for us. Also, we collect the funds in a rather ambiguous language, without any promise of how they will be spent, within…

Post by vezzy-fnord » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:23 PM UTC

alexlarsson wrote: post #70

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If I recall correctly, it's not just virtual terminal switching that you lose but also the ability to shutdown, reboot, suspend and hibernate your PC from the GUI - all of which now require logind - and probably other things like device mounting too. Gnome's also moving those to use Linux-specific kdbus ioctls directly. Oh, and those links are from 6 months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if things have gotten worse sin…

Here is an implementation of the logind API for openbsd: https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systembsd.git...

Post by maxlybbert » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:27 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #155

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I didn't see any comments that applied to patents (e.g., that they cover inventions, that they require the inventor to disclose all relevant details of the invention, that they have definite lifetimes, etc.), so while I agree with you and Stallman that it's important to be explicit about when you're talking about copyright, trade secrets, patents and trademarks, I don't think anybody's created any confusion yet. Besi…

> I didn't see any comments that applied to patents Well, when someone mentioned "fuel innovation", I assume they did not talk about trademarks, because trademarks have NOTHING to do with protecting innovation. That's what patents are for (in theory, while I don't agree with that, but that's a different topic).