The Microsoft Empire Reboots

Post by jsolson » Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 2:12 PM UTC

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That might be one of the mistakes, but it isn't the start of the problem. Tangibly, it's either United States v. Microsoft Corporation or Longhorn / Vista. Intangibly, it's the attitude that permeated the company that said "we are right because we are Microsoft." There were few people you could talk to who'd think you had anything to offer someone who worked at Microsoft. You still see this today around products like…

Just curious, do you work for Microsoft? Last I heard, Azure was doing pretty well, considering Office 365, TFS and a host of other internal services are hosted on it. They seem to be the most formidable competition to AWS right now (and I believe that, I tried all GCE, AWS and Azure over the weekend and while AWS was the best, Azure was a close second while GCE was just slow and buggy).

Post by WorldWideWayne » Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 2:46 PM UTC

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As Microsoft surpassed Apple and of course Amiga to become the absolute necessity of practicality that they are today, I don't think they cared as much about what the "cool kids" wanted. I think it's apparent and I am thankful that Microsoft didn't copy Apple's UI and instead went with a much more practical and utilitarian approach than Apple. This along with Microsoft's business model obviously works better for the…

At the moment, the Apple business model is far out in front of the Microsoft business model, from a sheer profit perspective.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 4:15 PM UTC

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And yet, Apple does, so it's a hint. Markets have segments. Apple decided to sell their 4S through other channels in the US (they still sell it on their site in Brazil, which I guess by your logic proves that they still manufacture it. That is a country of 200 million), likely to continue this absurd and so easily disproven myth, repeated in here, that they only chase the high end. But then you would have noticed tha…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone#Model_comparison says it is discontinued. If it's so easy to cite a credible site that says it is still in production, why don't you just do it? No, wikipedia isn't credible. Can you find a source that says the 2007 first generation iPhone is no longer in production? By your logic, it is still in production. It's possible that you are a party to non public knowledge. All power to y…

Post by F_J_H » Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 7:12 PM UTC

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I was a huge fan of Delphi 5 at the time, and hoped it would win over VB6 (I guess it's a Coke/Pepsi thing). Now I'm in the same boat as you, because it seems both Delphi and its competitor, VB, have lost. I'm not even sure if there are any winners. I wish someone would build a robust OS & GUI toolkit and ship it with developer tools...

I cut my teeth with VB 5/6. I still think there is nothing on the market that is as fast in creating applications. If you did things properly (MVP! remember that?) it was quite maintainable. I still know of several VB apps still in service.

Post by trentnelson » Mon, Oct 13, 2014, 2:10 AM UTC

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(I think) it's not hard to understand where microsoft went wrong. Ballmer just doesn't seem to get where the industry is going. As evidence, this quote from the article: Indeed, Ballmer seemed to have no intention of leaving when he announced a massive reorganization of the entire company in July 2013. Behind the scenes he had also begun negotiating an acquisition that was meant to transform Microsoft. He had become…

That might be one of the mistakes, but it isn't the start of the problem. Tangibly, it's either United States v. Microsoft Corporation or Longhorn / Vista. Intangibly, it's the attitude that permeated the company that said "we are right because we are Microsoft." There were few people you could talk to who'd think you had anything to offer someone who worked at Microsoft. You still see this today around products like…