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Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by stevewilhelm »

joshmillard wrote: post #56
joshmillard wrote: post #32

It's been a wonderful weird little thing so far, with folks having a mix of nostalgia for and first exposure to shell account stuff, playing around with oldschool webbery, hacking little things together across user accounts, and just generally being great people in a nice place. I got inspired yesterday and wrote us up our own custom low-rent version of Flappy Bird: http://www.tilde.club/~cortex/js/tildebird/

Decided we needed an arcade page for all the sweet games: http://www.tilde.club/~cortex/games.html

Where's adventure or empire?

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by sroerick »

linguafranca wrote: post #58

Ahh, now I remember why these kinds of websites died out. It's exciting a lot like Minecraft, in that we can make our own little worlds. We exercised both sides of the brain by learning how to write HTML and maybe some Perl, all while writing actual content. But just like Minecraft, that world is isolated and lonely. Nobody visited our sites, that's why we stopped updating them. They were inherently isolated from the…

>So we built social networks to replace them.

And now we aren't lonely!

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by sroerick »

urschrei wrote: post #155

I'm accepting pull requests for my tilde.club page ( http://tilde.club/~urschrei ) at https://github.com/urschrei/edit_my_tilde , if anyone wants to put some of their own content / JS /CSS / images up. A merged request triggers a web hook that pings a heroku app that performs a git pull on tilde.club using Fabric

> A merged request triggers a web hook that pings a heroku app that performs a git pull on tilde.club using Fabric

Can I ask you to explain this in a little more detail? I've tried to host pages with Git and run into weird errors cropping into my HTML and webdev people telling me "GIT IS NOT A DEPLOYMENT TOOL".

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by stephancoral »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #157
stephancoral wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Invite-only. Also NeoCities doesn't give you a full shell account

NeoCities is a web host isn't it, they don't give out shell at all?

They sandbox it by only allowing you to drag and drop files. Make a domain for yourself and you'll see.

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by vertex-four »

arm wrote: post #112
mr_brown wrote: post #37

/me also misses IRC from the times where you could type -- all lines aligned (to the left, however unbelievable that sounds) regardless of the length of the users name. Today I have to pay attention not to write (b) or (c) because it might turn into a beer or coffee. We often forget to appreciate the simplicity of things.

That behaviour sounds great, although I’m curious which old IRC clients you are referring to. I actually make use of an old Power Mac G3 (B&W) running Mac OS 9 for connecting to some IRC servers (using ircle) and in its case, at least, nicks are assumed to be 10 characters or less. This is quite annoying since there are active users on the channels who have nicks longer than that, so the client simply displays their…

> While I suppose ircle could dynamically resize the area for nicks based on the length of the longest nick that has posted a message, that could be pretty inefficient

XChat does exactly this. So do a few other clients still.

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by vertex-four »

72deluxe wrote: post #135
hvs wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And much less interesting than Minecraft.

I'm not sure. Some of the most informative pages were available under Tripod, written by people into obscure subjects. They were typically ugly (the pages, not the people), but were informative. They were a source of more interesting information than today's social network's "here's a picture of me eating something". You could actually learn something from reading the pages instead of just observing someone else's be…

The home education community in the UK had a huge amount of information up on Tripod and similar sites, pointing to all sorts of useful resources for those who wanted to teach their kids at home. I'm not sure where they post information these days. Probably in Facebook groups.

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by edavis »

NovaS1X wrote: post #126
edavis wrote: post #5

I love this. I absolutely love this. This project hits that sweet spot where "old timers" who remember the lo-fi social web have a place to call their own while also being appealing to the "young guns" who have only ever known the social web in the age of Facebook/Twitter and are looking for an alternative where not everything is easy and beautiful.

I was born in 1990, but I was also introduced to computers at a very young age. I've been using the internet before the Facebook/Myspace boom, but I never had the chance to really experience the "old-web" or usenet. This "project" gives me a chance to see a part of internet history that I missed or was too young to remember delivered from people who were there. It's a really unique project for people like myself, and…

I was born in 1989 and my experience is very similar.

As I came of age on the internet in the early 2000s, there were enough vestiges of stuff like Usenet that I was familiar with it but it was clear it was in terminal decline. And I always felt bummed that I missed that era.

Another thing that I really like about this project is how it combines new and old technologies. Like how it's a "standard UNIX computer on the internet" but runs on Amazon's cloud. Collaboration is done via Github. You sign-up via a Google Form. We have these amazing infrastructure tools now which didn't exist 10 years ago. It's really something to see.

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by hvs »

72deluxe wrote: post #135
hvs wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And much less interesting than Minecraft.

I'm not sure. Some of the most informative pages were available under Tripod, written by people into obscure subjects. They were typically ugly (the pages, not the people), but were informative. They were a source of more interesting information than today's social network's "here's a picture of me eating something". You could actually learn something from reading the pages instead of just observing someone else's be…

Actually, I meant that Minecraft is more interesting that the current crop of social networks. These types of pages are interesting, social network pages are not.

Re: Tilde.Club: I had a couple drinks and woke up with 1,000 nerds

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Post by rektide »

bmh100 wrote: post #114

My concern for this project is that it is so dependent on the culture of its users that is has to be strictly controlled. It cannot scale up, because a strong culture like this does not scale. There might be more Tilde Clubs over time, but such a machine is too easily disrupted by even a single bad actor, like peterwwillis says. Even if that did not happen, cultural erosion would happen, like a mini Eternal September…

  Tao begot one.
  One begot two.
  Two begot three.
  And three begot the Ten Thousand Things.
Poking holes at ways it can fail is analytic thinking. First you must accept the premise, and work to design ways it could work, will work, is working. Take a thing far before cutting it down.

It's possible this project creates the culture that satisfies your existability concerns. It's possible that culture might grow and spread.

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