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1.75% is a huge discount.

I have a friend who's about to start selling CC processing to local merchants at 1.29%. (His commission is 1/3 of that I think, so in theory the processor can go below 1%)

There's no way that is sustainable. The cards generally pay back upwards of 1% in points or cashback, so any processor that can offer rates under 1% is losing money somewhere.

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It's a trap. You, owner of a shop, don't do this. Amazon will first analyze all your sales data, they will than attach reviews to your shop and finally they will oblige you to play by their rules or die (banned or killed by bad reviews) and either way they will grow thanks to your hard work. I'm not joking, this is exactly what they have done (and keep doing) with "partners". Amazon is all but transparent and it has…

In other words Amazon is no different than the existing credit card companies (Visa, MC, AmEx, ect...), the existing merchant services, and the retailers themselves who all collect that data for purposes of selling to third parties and use for in house marketing. Brick and Mortar retailers are concerned about being able to conveniently accept payment and minimizing service charges for the convenience of accepting non…

Cash handling is not free either. In many European markets paying by debit card is cheaper than cash for the shop, at least for the larger chains. That's why they offer cash back at the till.

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Only if you sign up by November, and "1.75% per swipe until January 1, 2016". It's 2.5% after that. I guess you could switch back, but by that time Amazon could have already used your data against you. No such thing as a free lunch!

I'm picturing the conversation like this: You: "The credit card fee is 1.75% until 2016, but Amazon can use your data against you." Coffee shop owner: "I can add .75% to my bottom line for a year?" You: "Yes, but Amazon can use your data against you." Coffee shop owner: "I sign up where now?"

To be fair,amazon probably isn't going to be able to supplant coffee shops any time soon.

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I agree with that to a point. But unless these products are profitable it doesn't really matter if they produce revenue. Folk long-argued that it was valuable for Google to have all of these free products because it kept them in the Google ecosystem. They were spending more time on Google, which had real value. The problem is the cost that comes with lack of focus. Exploding headcount. Unclear corporate vision. When…

> I'd love to see Amazon spend real effort on making AWS easier to use [for people who are not deeply steeped in AWS already, it's hard]. That's the beauty of the API. There are already various vendors that do just this on top of it. The funny thing is, if you're a big guy too, say 10K instances, you also need to use 3rd party tools since the AWS UI can't handle that case either. But since everything is an API call y…

You say all of this like it's a good thing!

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It's a trap. You, owner of a shop, don't do this. Amazon will first analyze all your sales data, they will than attach reviews to your shop and finally they will oblige you to play by their rules or die (banned or killed by bad reviews) and either way they will grow thanks to your hard work. I'm not joking, this is exactly what they have done (and keep doing) with "partners". Amazon is all but transparent and it has…

In other words Amazon is no different than the existing credit card companies (Visa, MC, AmEx, ect...), the existing merchant services, and the retailers themselves who all collect that data for purposes of selling to third parties and use for in house marketing. Brick and Mortar retailers are concerned about being able to conveniently accept payment and minimizing service charges for the convenience of accepting non…

There are non negligible costs for accepting cash. Major retailers have to have armored trucks to move cash, cash counts require more trained personnel. Even on a smaller level there is increased risk of theft or skimming from taking cash compared to credit only.

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Obviously Amazon is different, because unlike credit card companies they are in the business of competing with small retailers. Particularly when you consider their "your margin is my opportunity" strategy giving this data to them should be a terrifying proposition for any business owner.

But there are so many places that Amazon does not compete with that there is a market for this. Obviously a small book store might not want to do this but what about restaurants, coffee shops, the plumber that comes to fix your toilet (or any service industry), the local tap room, and so on. Edit: Sorry, the idea of Amazon opening restaurants, coffee shops or tap rooms (which would also mean they start brewing their…

Five yrs ago we wouldn't have guessed Amazon would do tablets, its on OS, music service etc. We don't know what they will do five years from now.

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"Pricing you can trust" rarely comes along with "LOW LOW PRICES IF YOU COMMIT NOW!" In fact, the combination of these two concepts in one ad campaign should double-red-flag this "opportunity".

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But there are so many places that Amazon does not compete with that there is a market for this. Obviously a small book store might not want to do this but what about restaurants, coffee shops, the plumber that comes to fix your toilet (or any service industry), the local tap room, and so on. Edit: Sorry, the idea of Amazon opening restaurants, coffee shops or tap rooms (which would also mean they start brewing their…

Amazon might not be competing with them right now , but they could be in 5 years time (as ridiculous as that sounds for your examples), and businesses should take the long term view. When it was just books most businesses ignored Amazon, but they've grown to encompass many, many industries now.

You know how ridiculous it would have sounded if I told you 15 years ago that you could specify any address and get a local 360° street view of it... Even in rural austrailia or inside a business. And that comes from a search engine company... That mainly makes money off advertising.

Who knows where amazon will go.

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1.75% limited of time offer makes me want to vomit. The one thing I like about Square is at least they're not like other CC processors that make the careers HIDING fees from their merchants. Now Amazon is coming out the gate doing this. Many of us are fighting these fees online - even the CC processors like Stripe are at least straightforward with their fees even if they're forced to make them higher than they'd like…

> 1.75% limited of time offer makes me want to vomit. So Amzn should offer a lower rate, free perhaps? Or are they hiding fees somewhere else? Please you explain your aversion more.

It's temporary - they're making it seem like it's lower than it is. They're going to lock people in and then jack up the rate - it's classic CC processing trick and it's BULLSHIT. Even if the real price is written somewhere, it's still horseshit.
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