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Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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I'd like a little better code and programming related search. For anything related to code-search I have to switch to Google at this point.

https://search.nerdydata.com/ I forget the name of the other one, but there's another one similar to this too.

http://www.symbolhound.com/

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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I use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine and have had a positive experience using it. This redesign incorporates two of the worst design trends today: very low contrast text and gratuitously, obnoxiously large fixed headers. I dislike fixed headers on any non-phone/tablet UI because almost all laptop and desktop screens are widescreen. Fixed position elements on the sides of the screen make much more sense, altho…

No matter what DDG does there is no way to make it 100% perfect for everyone. I find the contrast to be perfectly fine. But someone with a different monitor can see completely different colours/contrast. The only thing I can see is maybe slightly making it darker wouldn't hurt anything.

True, but a good use of the flexibility computers allow for people adjusting settings allows for a great deal of happiness.

To the extent I still use Google (various products not just search) one thing is constantly happening is that setting options are removed. I find links showing me how to fix what Google has broken and then the settings I can use to do so have seemingly been completely removed by Google :-( This continuing practice has encouraged me to move more and more away from Google. DDG is my default, though still use Google search a fair amount when DDG doesn't give great results or I want to filter by date.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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I'm getting a weird bug that's making the results page un-usable:

When I move my cursor up and down in the results area, the listings start scrambling around like crazy. I can't even tell if they're being scrolled through or if they're just randomly changing.

I am on a Lenovo Yoga 13 (which is an ultrabook with a touchscreen) using Chrome 34.0.1847.131 m on Windows. I suspect DDG thinks I'm on a mobile device and then interprets cursor movements as finger swiping.

Edit: Yep, seems to think I'm on a mobile device. Menu is hidden behind a menu icon, but I can't get it to open with a mouseclick--only with a tap on the screen. The site is completely unusable for anyone with a Windows 8 laptop (ie, laptops with touchscreens), unless they're using it exclusively as a tablet.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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The auto-suggest feature feels like a step backwards in terms of privacy: - it indicates that there's a fairly thorough recording of searches going on, and acknowledges a reasonable possibility of keypress-by-keypress recording, and - it doesn't work as well as google's version which accounts for local variation, and which formed part of my decision to reject google in favour of ddg. Overall this feature creeps me ou…

To be clear, we still don't collect or share personal information and auto-suggest does not impact that at all. I appreciate it may make you and others uncomfortable and we're sensitive to that, but it is not a change in terms of privacy. We simply do not associate queries with personal information (e.g. IP addresses) and in fact don't store any of it at all.

Understood. Can you clarify how you have the data to provide an auto-suggest?

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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The design is nice, but I still don't find the results relevant (from the small sample size that I tested). For example, I searched for 'alternatives to minimum wage' because of a recent debate, and got Yahoo Answers as the first result, with a bunch of unknown sites after. On the other hand, Google returned the Washington Post, Bloomberg View and other credible organisations.

The design is certainly much nicer on the eyes, without the blue links and with the little 'read' tick marks, but perhaps the focus should be on better search algorithms first?

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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I started using DDG a long time ago when it first came out. I asked for a few stickers to add at my IT department, but I got a good bunch instead. There are now random DDG stickers in various cities around southern Ontario.

Any way to get some more in Europe?

You can buy some from: http://www.stickermule.com/duckduckgo

I still have a few with me. I can send you some if you want (contact details in profile).

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Yes it does? The search engine won't track you, but that doesn't stop your ISP or anyone else along the chain.

I mean that the guarantee from an US-based company that they won't track you is meaningless, because they can be ordered in secret court to hand over all their information with a gag order. After that the only way for us to know would be a whistleblower. And even then we would only know that we are unsafe, not that we are safe.

Except DuckDuckGo doesn't hold that information in the first place [1]. So a request by the government for information on a user will have very little information.

[1] - https://duckduckgo.com/privacy

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Well kudos on letting my right click and copy URL from search results! I hate how Google insists on using https://www.google.com.bo/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we... - yeah Google, totally makes sense. Godspeed duckduckgo!

The reason Google sends you through a redirect instead of directly to the site is to prevent those sites from tracking what you searched to get there. When websites look in their referrer header they'll see http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rc...url=http%3A%2F%2Fexample... instead of " https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=example" . This gives them the advantage of you only being able to see what Google Searches brought peopl…

> This gives them the advantage of you only being able to see what Google Searches brought people to their site through Google Analytics

Search terms come in Google's Webmaster Tools. You can only get them in Analytics if you hook up your Webmaster Tools account to your Analytics Account.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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The one box can be nice but takes up too much room so I have it set to off. It would be better if you gave me a simple click to view one box (I can often guess the small number of cases where viewing it would be useful - such as thinking a map will show up or in the case I wanted the wiki summary).

Off the top of my head just having a link after the products link that said 0-click box (or something) if it was settings had it off would be useful.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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A practical application for fixed headers is retaining access to search fields on pages with infinite scrolling (which is why they're doing it here). Otherwise, you might be ten pages deep and then have to scroll all the back up to search again. With this, search is accessible at all times.

That's why God gave us a "Home" key. Though Steve, who thought he was God, took it away from some of You.

fn+left arrow is home on a Mac keyboard.
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