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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the solution? Stop innovating because there's a slight chance of said innovation being used for evil? I'm all for being wary of what's going on, so that you don't get caught with your pants down, but what's the absolute worse that can happen? Every single tech that you can think of that has changed the world in some form, had it's own set of doomsayers, but as a whole I think we've progressed in the right dire…
The solution to the privacy question isn't easy so obviously we should all do nothing.
Privacy is a social construct and so it must be dealt in a social way (regulations, etiquettes, norms, etc..) Stopping, hindering, slowing down, or complaining about technological growth for fear of privacy violations, is the same logic used by religious bodies hundreds of years ago to today, regarding advancements in science.
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#163I'm shocked by the distinct focus on fear and doubt about Google's intentions with this technology -- does it really matter that much? The rising tide lifts us all, and this technology can be ubiquitous within twenty years. Isn't that worth it?
Google is enormously huge, and the breadth of their product line is jaw dropping. This fact causes the instant reaction of connecting every "innovation" that comes out of it to be connected to greed for more and hunger for data. This would be an overtly exciting Kickstarter project to find out about, but when it is from Google, the perception is that they are managing to invade one more market.
They are the Internet, they have the half of cellphone market, they sell apps, books, CPU cycles, they sell Chromebooks, tablets, they make maps, they provide apps for chat, video conferencing, they've made an online office suite, they store your documents, they make the mobile OS that is sold on other company's mobile phones, they do mobile payment, they create programming languages, they employ Ken Thompson, Rob Pike, and probably the guy you envy the most, they have quantum computers and they do a sh*t load of other things that I can't bother to remember (Translate, Youtube, G+, Blogger, Groups, ...).
It is not possible (for me, at least) to attach Google the childish excitement that two geeky weirdos with scruffy hair bear for their fundraiser. Google is now the hot kid in the school, who's tall, strong, handsome and athletic, who also plays guitar and is very successful at his exams, speaks three languages and represents his school in the drama festival, and also participates in the school band as whoever the guy who gets the most attention in a band.
Innovation is good for science, but it is harmful to the collaborative efforts when it comes from companies that should've been saturated. When Google dies (like anything else), it will fell over the crowd that lives under it's shadow.
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#164"- Johnny Lee and the ATAP-Project Tango Team" Johnny Lee was the guy with the awesome Wii Controller demos back in 2007 (can't believe it's been that long). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw edit: here's the full set of demos: http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/ (also, I'm assuming it's the same guy, but his site says he's at Google now)
Watching the demo in the 2nd half of the I thought, cool I can watch video in 3D without wearing goggles. And than I heard the head tracking really works only when 1 user is using it. Well dang it, I will sacrifice spending time with wife if I can watch a movie in 3D without wearing goggles... I see that his focus moved from living room TV/game console to a mobile device...
Yeah, I was really disappointed at the time that Nintendo didn't move on it, as it obviously worked really well out of the box, with no hardware modifications needed.
It could have made an awesome additional experience to some games (even if it was optional), and they could have done it with no accessory required.
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#165"Imagine measuring your room by just walking around in it." Yes, and imagine transmitting each of those footsteps in real time back to Google, so they can have a map of your room, too, in case they, or other parties, ever need it. I was just having a discussion yesterday with a friend who works at Google about what data they store when you query their search engine. Every single keystroke, including backspaces, is st…
Good god I am so sick of reading comments like this. This view of the world is just lazy. Almost as lazy as "remember, if you're using a service for free, you're not the customer, YOU'RE THE PRODUCT!", which seems to get parroted every single time there is any discussion related to google, facebook, microsoft, instagram, twitter, or any other web company that uses ads as a revenue model.
Yes, google can know what your room looks like. Google could also know literally every place you go, every message you send, every transaction you make through a bank, every website you visit, every photo you take, every person you meet, when you use the bathroom, when you sleep, etc. etc. etc.
Who cares? If you don't like these services, don't use them. Nobody is forcing you to use this device.
Have you, or any of the other people on HN who repeat this ad nauseum, ever considered the possibility that the people running google are actually just hackers who got lucky enough to have the resources to pursue projects that they think are cool?
I mean...what would you do if you had google's resources? If I had google's resources I'd probably be doing exactly what they're doing. Things like trying to improve the broadband situation in the United States, protected rhinos from African poachers, developing cool future-tech like self-driving cars, etc.
If you don't like modernity, stop using modernity. Move to a homestead in the pacific northwest, never use a telephone, never use grid power, grow your own vegetables, grow your own cattle, and keep away from the evil, scary spies at gooooogggllleeee who are trying to...uh...give you better targeted advertisements? Or provide you with better search results?
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#166This is essentially putting a Kinect in your phone and hooking it up with hopefully high-level APIs. It may take 2-3 years to make it into regular phones, but when it does it will be huge. Apple's acquisition of PrimeSense (the makers of the 1st gen Kinect) means they're also working on this. To give you a real-world example: when I started BarSsense ( http://www.barsense.com ) the core problem was tracking the path…
I don't understand the application beyond gaming. The other applications discussed are basically shopping. Essentially this would make it much easier to represent the physical world digitally. But what use cases does a consumer or the average phone user have for digital representations of the physical space around them, particularly given that the user is already aware of the the physical space around them? How can t…
It will let you see through walls.
Imagine being in a complex refinery, factory, etc., where tons of infrastructure is hidden behind walls or a couple of rooms away. Just hold your device in front of you, and peer through its virtual portal through the walls onto your hidden surroundings ...
Being able to know where everything is, along with an overlay of real-time status, etc. will be valuable.
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#167This is essentially putting a Kinect in your phone and hooking it up with hopefully high-level APIs. It may take 2-3 years to make it into regular phones, but when it does it will be huge. Apple's acquisition of PrimeSense (the makers of the 1st gen Kinect) means they're also working on this. To give you a real-world example: when I started BarSsense ( http://www.barsense.com ) the core problem was tracking the path…
Nice app! Quick spelling check though:
You can focus on and isolate part of a rep to really understand how well "YOUR" performed
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#168"Unfortunately, due to FCC restrictions, we can only send development units to incorporated entities or institutions at this time." That's a bummer. Also, the page's default background-color should be set to black (or something dark). Most of the text is white(ish) and with a slow connection the background images take a while to load, making it impossible to read while you wait. /rant
This is a little creepy actually when you think about it. Here is this amazing new technology and the government says that only corporations are allowed to possess it. I'm sure that there are reasons but on the face of it I feel like it is right out of a cyberpunk book.
That just indicates that it hasn't passed Class B certification yet (under Title 47 CFR Part 15), which basically means that as an unintentional RF radiator (that is, at least in part not an intentional radiocommunication device), it hasn't yet been shown not to interfere with other devices. Even the wall wart for charging your phone needs to meet Class B in order to be sold or supplied for household use.
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#169"- Johnny Lee and the ATAP-Project Tango Team" Johnny Lee was the guy with the awesome Wii Controller demos back in 2007 (can't believe it's been that long). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw edit: here's the full set of demos: http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/ (also, I'm assuming it's the same guy, but his site says he's at Google now)
Watching the demo in the 2nd half of the I thought, cool I can watch video in 3D without wearing goggles. And than I heard the head tracking really works only when 1 user is using it. Well dang it, I will sacrifice spending time with wife if I can watch a movie in 3D without wearing goggles... I see that his focus moved from living room TV/game console to a mobile device...
I tried out his demo back then and unfortunately it isn't as impressive in real life as it is on video. The problem is that at the distance you usually have your television the most important depth cue is the stereo separation of images, i.e. what you get when wearing 3D-glasses.
So while the objects move around as if you would move in relation to them - your brain still tells you that the image is painted on the surface of the television.
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#170Funny, the official tagline of the project is "We like epic shit". http://i.imgur.com/mvcyUX4.png
