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Re: Why you should move that button 3px to the left

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Post by nikatwork »

Chris_Newton wrote: post #159
hueving wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there strong scientific evidence that when one of these is slightly violated, it will negatively impact the user?

The short answer is no, slight violations of these ideas don’t tend to cause the sky to fall. Indeed, the list of examples given by nikatwork was unfortunate, because some of them are well established with a decent evidence base, but a few are basically just nonsense that has unfortunately somehow become dogma. For example, a few studies have been performed under controlled conditions to try to determine how typograp…

We're talking at cross-purposes here. My point is that if someone hands me a layout with wildly inconsistent internal margins, no call to action and a text column that is a full screen width wide, I can objectively say those elements are wrong and need to be fixed.

Of course, the other side to design is "style", which cannot really be quantified, merely subjectively judged against current trends, the target audience and "taste".

Re: Why you should move that button 3px to the left

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Post by TheZenPsycho »

carbocation wrote: post #149
TheZenPsycho wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it unreasonable to expect that every design decision be based on logic? Human beings have two brain hemispheres. TWO WHOLE BRAIN HEMISPHERES. a right lobe and a left lobe. The right lobe is JUST AS BIG and complicated as the left lobe, in which our logic and reasoning abilities are based. But in our culture, especially in development culture, for some reason any decision based on a process in the right hemisphe…

All of these statements might be true, but they neither imply nor advance one another. They are all non sequiturs. Also, there is less to the left/right brain thing than most people seem to think.

I can only guess that you just didn't read it, or don't understand it, because you're 100% wrong. Not just wrong, but ironically wrong- you're explicitly proving my point that the only thing you value is logic and reason. Which is ridiculous because our brains do a lot more than just logic and reason.

As for the left/right thing, I know that- strictly speaking, there isn't really that much of a left-right separation of concerns in the brain. It doesn't matter for my point though. It's just a metaphor for the easily demonstrable fact that brains have functions other than logic that are just as useful and important to satisfy.

Re: Why you should move that button 3px to the left

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Post by Chris_Newton »

nikatwork wrote: post #161
Chris_Newton wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The short answer is no, slight violations of these ideas don’t tend to cause the sky to fall. Indeed, the list of examples given by nikatwork was unfortunate, because some of them are well established with a decent evidence base, but a few are basically just nonsense that has unfortunately somehow become dogma. For example, a few studies have been performed under controlled conditions to try to determine how typograp…

We're talking at cross-purposes here. My point is that if someone hands me a layout with wildly inconsistent internal margins, no call to action and a text column that is a full screen width wide, I can objectively say those elements are wrong and need to be fixed. Of course, the other side to design is "style", which cannot really be quantified, merely subjectively judged against current trends, the target audience…

Apologies if I misunderstood your previous post. From your final paragraph before, I thought you were arguing that the properties you listed were not only things that could be judged objectively but also desirable principles that should be taught as part of design courses. I was countering that this would have been OK for some of the items but dubious for a few others, because while they are widely held and promoted beliefs in some quarters, they are also examples of things many designers say that aren’t backed up by rational arguments or empirical data.
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