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Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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How did you develop this 'natural' interest in programming? I am male, but had literally zero role models, and my school system never covered computers. I made it to age 25 without knowing what a programming language is. But when I found out I was bloody hooked on the idea!

Fair point, I might have been "spoiled" with growing up in a rather techy environment, my dad worked with PC ever since I can remember. I however think that the schooling system needs to start including computer science subjects and by that I don't just mean how to use Microsoft Word. Then again the question is, why do females not get hooked on the idea, even when they don't grow up in such a techy environment. Is it…

>>I however think that the schooling system needs to start including computer science subjects

No amount of teaching CS subjects to kids will ever get them hooked to programming. Because in their case, most kids think programming is synonymous with math and they hate it with a passion.

Instead of teaching them sorting and Big-O, which are nothing but math in different forms what we need to teach kids is a taste for building. It can be as simple as a building complex models with lego, to encouraging them to take part in science exhibitions.

Here in India we had a subject called SUPW(Socially useful productive work). One of the projects I did was to build a mat with cigarette packets. Stuff like that help kids 'get into the zone' or 'get hooked' to productive/creative projects. They can slowly graduate to programming as they start dealing with complex projects.

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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I think you missed the description of my organization - we're not doing professional development. We're training kids on how to better access technology, and quite frankly people on HN don't really understand what our atmosphere is like. Girls and the parents of girls really appreciate our all-girls classes and events, they have excellent attendance and the girls really come together as a community. I honestly couldn…

I can understand purely from an academic perspective- attending classes, passing tests, completing assignments. But again this model breaks down in the real world. One must really treat engineering as a practice and not as a degree. More like law and medicine. Throughout India, girls outscore boys in nearly every exam. Somehow that doesn't last at workplaces.

I disagree, not just on this issue, but in general. I think academic education should be more the learning and less training - teach creativity, abstract thinking, curiosity, thinking out-of-the-box, ... The student's then become faster learners of the more mundane things, because they have a better mental abstraction framework, and can learn the things that are required on the job starting to work on the job!

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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There are some Muslim leaders that express disturbing things as well. Once again, this does not make them the voice of mainstream Islam. If you actually visit a large men's rights community, like http://reddit.com/r/mensrights , you'll find that some women participate in discussion as well and the men are not the rape-happy bugaboos that many paint MRAs in general to be.

Oh hey look the top story is someone "cherry-picking" a paragraph from an article one person wrote, about rape. Glad I took the time to visit

It's almost as if movements in general - feminism and the men's rights movement included - are prone to partisan sensationalism.

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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Animus9 is an obvious mens rights advocate. They are indistinguishable from trolls; the only difference being that they believe the stuff they say.

Your statement is about as intelligent as saying feminists are indistinguishable from trolls. The men's rights movement, like feminism, isn't monolithic.

It is reactionary, i.e. its MO is to paint "feminism" as monolithic and dangerous. If these men really cared about gender inequality and the problems they face as men, they would see that many branches of feminism, like radical feminism, offers solutions where everyone comes out the winner. But that's not what "men's rights" is for.

This is coming from a man who has learned a lot by listening to women instead of constructing male echo chambers.

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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Oh hey look the top story is someone "cherry-picking" a paragraph from an article one person wrote, about rape. Glad I took the time to visit

It's almost as if movements in general - feminism and the men's rights movement included - are prone to partisan sensationalism.

I'm confused; "feminism" isn't a singular movement at all

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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Here is my abridged comment: 1. It is important to like who you are and what you do. I am glad you are proud of being who you are, 2. But at the same time I don't like when people are calling out initiatives like "more women in tech". Look, getting a job is tough. It can be luck or qualification. I know someone is going to cite some research studies but at this point, let's just say yes we get it, a lot of assholes o…

You post strongly reminded me of the Physician's Oath.

  I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed,
  ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race,
  sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene
  between my duty and my patient;
Teach like that. Everyone deserve the chance to learn and grow as human beings.

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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It's almost as if movements in general - feminism and the men's rights movement included - are prone to partisan sensationalism.

I'm confused; "feminism" isn't a singular movement at all

Mainstream segments of the movement, if you will. The mainstream of any movement is where a sense of tribal identity emerges that's likely to engage in partisan disparagement of other movements seen as opposition.

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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Your statement is about as intelligent as saying feminists are indistinguishable from trolls. The men's rights movement, like feminism, isn't monolithic.

It is reactionary, i.e. its MO is to paint "feminism" as monolithic and dangerous. If these men really cared about gender inequality and the problems they face as men, they would see that many branches of feminism, like radical feminism, offers solutions where everyone comes out the winner. But that's not what "men's rights" is for. This is coming from a man who has learned a lot by listening to women instead of cons…

There are men's rights practitioners that support the egalitarian aims of feminism. Equality is what reasonable MRAs and feminists want. Unreasonable MRAs and feminists, however, are more interested in having someone to blame.

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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you mean to run a "competitive company" you have to abuse your employees? I know a lot of companies that are the best in their business and never have to. It is just unfortunate for India that our so-called IT Industry is just marketing itself as cheap and easy-to-abuse labour.

>>you mean to run a "competitive company" you have to abuse your employees? Not at all, but to be a "competitive company" you have to be "competitive" which is essentially doing better than your competition. The issue is someone is always willing to put more effort than you/your company. This is where it all breaks down. This is exactly what makes our profession so much sought after. Because at some point you can mak…

Yknow, a lot of the world doesn't run their economy through some zero-sum fuck-your-employees-the-bottom-line-is-what-matters crap...

Re: To the Girls of HackerNews: I am a Female Founder who Codes

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I can understand purely from an academic perspective- attending classes, passing tests, completing assignments. But again this model breaks down in the real world. One must really treat engineering as a practice and not as a degree. More like law and medicine. Throughout India, girls outscore boys in nearly every exam. Somehow that doesn't last at workplaces.

I disagree, not just on this issue, but in general. I think academic education should be more the learning and less training - teach creativity, abstract thinking, curiosity, thinking out-of-the-box, ... The student's then become faster learners of the more mundane things, because they have a better mental abstraction framework, and can learn the things that are required on the job starting to work on the job!

Yet, despite doing all that we don't see it going well in practice.

The problem is stuffing things in the brain isn't a great use of one's time especially when years of doing that can be replaced by Google query.

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