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Firefox 26 is released

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Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by zobzu »

super_mario wrote: post #153

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly…

Is that a troll attempt? Not sure.

Haven't had any of my 15 extensions break in 20 releases. I don't expect any breakage any time.

The reason for rapid release is that they need to get new features out to load stuff properly like google docs, yes.

The main reason to use firefox IMO is that its as fast or faster than others (and has all the features of course) AND has this: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ to tip things on it's favors.

Also, I'm using Australis and its just fine. I switch back to release sometimes and I don't really notice the difference anymore. I do prefer the australis tabs contrast.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by zobzu »

lawl wrote: post #36
pwnna wrote: post #5

> Support for H.264 on Linux if the appropriate gstreamer plug-ins are installed \o/

I don't think that's a good thing for the open web. :'( Then again I do like that I can watch more YouTube Videos in a reasonable resolution now. Most webm transcodes are just available in low quality.

I remember reading mozilla saying this is a battle they have lost.

If they had more marketshare, they'd have won. The open web would have won.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by zobzu »

a1a wrote: post #45
prteja11 wrote: post #3

Love this - All Java plug-ins are defaulted to 'click to play' I tried convincing my coworkers to disable java and failed (we are not developers).

I do not think this is a good solution. This is once again just smashing another security trade-off in the face of the end-user. Once the user is responsible they can be blamed and the browser is considered secure with stupid users. If the developers at mozilla can't verify the security of the applet, how on earth would my grandmother be able to? Note: This is not an attack against mozilla in particular, almost all v…

its actually pretty good since drive by are the most common attacks. grandma won't click the button if she doesn't care about the content

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by eli »

dubcanada wrote: post #144
nhebb wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were to construct a graph of all the features implemented by one browser and then copied by the others, after a while it would look like a chain link fence.

As correct as you are you'd be surprised how many features we use where implemented in Opera first. Surprisingly large amount, which they then threw away...

I give the Opera guys a lot of credit (I met a few engineers years ago at a conference and they seem like awesome dudes too), but one can hardly blame them for "throwing it away."

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by cpeterso »

super_mario wrote: post #153

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly…

You might prefer Mozilla's Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release). ESR is targeted at large organizations that want to deploy a stable browser that will continue to receive security updates. Mozilla supports ESR for 12 months. The current version is based on Firefox 24; the previous was Firefox 17.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all.html

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by Mikeb85 »

systems wrote: post #126
yeukhon wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. to clarify for people who are not clear, see this https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar

will the linux version still show the window frame on top of the tabs? Update: seems so http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-... why didnt they take this chance to fix this, chromium does it>

The Unity DE for Ubuntu hides the frame when it's maximized, and integrates the menus into the global bar...

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by voltagex_ »

spindritf wrote: post #50
lawl wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's a good thing for the open web. :'( Then again I do like that I can watch more YouTube Videos in a reasonable resolution now. Most webm transcodes are just available in low quality.

I just download youtube videos[1]. It has many advantages over youtube.com. Hardware acceleration is one but also no stalling when skipping ahead, no disappearing videos that you planned to watch later, no need to sign in. Actually, youtube as a repository of material for download works much better than youtube as a streaming site. [1] http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

The only issue I have with youtube-dl is that there's nothing stopping Google from playing hardball and blocking youtube-dl completely.

That said, I'd love a Firefox plugin that dumps the YT url directly to youtube-dl.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by nnethercote »

dear wrote: post #111
mccr8 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at about:memory, it can give you information about where the memory is going. If you file a bug on bugzilla with the [MemShrink] whiteboard, we can look into it and try to figure out what is happening.

Thanks! I have used about:memory and 'CC', 'GC', etc, but they didn't help. I will see if this is a problem with the new version. At least older versions (25 or before) all had the similar issue.

Those buttons aren't silver bullets. If you file a bug and include the contents of about:memory (use the "measure and save" button) and CC me or mccr8 there's a decent chance it'll get looked at.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by nnethercote »

tezzer wrote: post #102
clarry wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And if you want to claim that it's a memory hog, then you need to take a look at how it behaves on top of memory constrained systems. I can confirm that Firefox regularly runs out of memory and dies on a system with a total of 1G of ram and 512M data segment limit.

And I can confirm that if I load 6 tabs in Firefox and go to work, when I come home it will have eaten 2G of my memory, the next morning it will have eaten 5, and a couple of days later nothing on my system will run without disk thrashing because Firefox is sitting at 96% memory usage.

Please file a bug, include an about:memory dump (use the "Measure and save" button), and CC me and/or mccr8.
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