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Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by rsynnott »

kuschku wrote: post #119
stesch wrote: post #74

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I have iOS 7.0.3 on my iPhone 4S. Released a month before the Galaxy Nexus.

Have you gotten all the features, the iPhone 5S got? Do you have the nice blurred Control Center background? Android's Problem is fragmentation, and it wouldn't help at all to just backport some functions to older devices, because then developers coulnd't be sure about tthe availability of any API.

> Do you have the nice blurred Control Center background?

You get this on the 4S, yes, just not on the iPhone 4 or the iPad 2/3.

> because then developers coulnd't be sure about tthe availability of any API.

iOS 7 running on the iPhone 4 has the same APIs as on the 5S; it just doesn't have all the UI features (notably, the blurring stuff).

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by sologoub »

kuschku wrote: post #119
stesch wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have iOS 7.0.3 on my iPhone 4S. Released a month before the Galaxy Nexus.

Have you gotten all the features, the iPhone 5S got? Do you have the nice blurred Control Center background? Android's Problem is fragmentation, and it wouldn't help at all to just backport some functions to older devices, because then developers coulnd't be sure about tthe availability of any API.

My iPhone 4S benefited immensely from iOS7 (UX-feel not withstanding). The biggest difference for was in the camera software. I can't describe how much better it is performing in filming things as they happen.

By contrast, my Galaxy Nexus has become slower and slower with each upgrade. With the last update, my keyboard started to crash... I was really looking forward to the 4.4, hoping things would improve.

And yes, I use two phones and most of the time have both with me... GN is no longer used as a camera though.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by rsynnott »

matwood wrote: post #124
X-Istence wrote: post #97

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My colleague has an iPhone 4, iOS 7 works on it beautifully for him. My iPhone 4S has also not had any issues with iOS 7...

Interesting since my iPhone 4 has slowed the a crawl with iOS7. Nearly unusable now.

Have you upgraded to 7.0.3? This seems to help a lot. Also, you may want to try enabling reduced motion in the accessibility settings.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by keeperofdakeys »

hrkristian wrote: post #44
kevincrane wrote: post #24

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> "Android 4.4, KitKat, which comes on Nexus 5, will also soon be available on Nexus 4, 7, 10, the Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play edition devices in the coming weeks." Hopefully they get it working for the Galaxy Nexus somehow, mine has been a crapshoot for memory recently with Chrome just randomly restarting at times.

We'll see ports to the GNex by various teams soon enough, although it is a bit of a shame Google are not supporting it themselves, that leads me to believe they tried and failed to make it work properly. That's a bit odd, though, as 4.0 works almost perfectly on my Galaxy S, and 4.3 runs "okay". The smaller memory footprint should make 4.4 work great in theory, but it might not be a memory issue at all.

Google stated they have a 18 month support period in one of their posts, so it's just a matter of not committing to too much.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by keeperofdakeys »

bowmanb wrote: post #79
csomar wrote: post #25

I had a terrible experience with the Nexus S. I bought it a couple years ago (which seems to be a vety long time in Google terms) and right now it's totally unusable. It's very slow, the battery is sucked up in less than an hour when on wifi, some apps can't work, the play store is a mess and I can go on and on. I experienced the nexus 4 a little bit and though it's a great phone I'm afraid the next OS updates are go…

I love my Nexus S, but I'm running CyanogenMod. I highly recommend trying it, especially if you aren't happy. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Crespo_Info http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Crespo4g_Info (4G)

My Nexus S runs 4.3 happily, although a little laggy in some places, and not much multitasking. It would be more than usable though.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by samspenc »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #134
pwthornton wrote: post #71

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This is in stark contrast to iOS, which runs on a phone released in June 2010.

Even my iPhone 5 feels as laggy as the original 2G iPhone did, now that I've updated to iOS 7. I wish I could hit the undo button on that 'upgrade.'

Yeah, but KitKat is supposed to run on low-end devices. Call me disappointed, but I'm a happy camper with my Galaxy Nexus and will be looking at possibly rooting my phone in the near future with 4.4. But am really disappointed Google didn't support Galaxy Nexus with 4.4 since the phone still rocks! :(

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by rsynnott »

eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

> zRAM integrated into stock kernel

2013 definitely seems to be the year of memory compression.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by samspenc »

MoosePlissken wrote: post #139
mmmooo wrote: post #78

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This statement pretty much covers it: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085

Thanks for the link. That's really a shame considering they titled the post "Android for all" and made a big deal out of Kit Kat's small memory foot print. Memory has been pretty tight on my Galaxy Nexus, those optimizations would have been nice. I guess I'll have to wait for the modding community to get it working.

"Android for all ... unless you have a Google phone that's older than 18 months."

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by keeperofdakeys »

JoseVigil wrote: post #145

The story behind the scene to my eyes is Google removing out of the box apps from Android to leave it PLAY dependent 100% if possible %200. This means that no other store like Amazon will be able to create a second store based on Android with a fresh environment out of the box. Google says is due to modularity I say due to market strategy. As a clear example (apart from the clear explanation of the article, great art…

I suspect the webview was updated because of two related reasons, first they didn't want to maintain a separate webkit, and second because Chromium/Chrome have switched to Blink (a fork of webkit). Also, being Chromium this should be directly in the ASOP sources, so it's still separate from Chrome.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by kuida0r3 »

eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

Wonder if this means alert dialogs will start showing up from ads in embedded webviews. Window.alert() didn't work in Android's webview and the WebChrome client was the workaround.

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=752

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