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Re: Node.js and the new web front-end

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Post by CmonDev » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 8:05 AM UTC

joshuacc wrote: post #150

CmonDev wrote: post #139

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The "Open Web" is closed to one single language choice that was made for you by someone else. TypeScript is being developed, because Microsoft adapts to where the world is moving and they are just trying to avert the disaster that will happen when enterprises will actually start trying developing whole applications in JS. And Google is developing a higher-order version language as well. Nobody developed a language to…

> Nobody developed a language to run on top of Java Clojure? Scala?

I said 'Java' not JVM.

Re: Node.js and the new web front-end

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Post by tracker1 » Thu, Oct 10, 2013, 8:08 AM UTC

jasonlotito wrote: post #128

tracker1 wrote: post #119

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Well, probably the biggest difference is npm... A great package manager makes things easier to create and use as independent modules. PHP has frameworks, but these are a bit cumbersome. JavaScript even with the bad parts is still more consistent and friendly to use than the core methods within PHP, inconsistent naming structures, parameter ordering and a lot of other issues at the language level. I've NEVER liked PHP…

> Well, probably the biggest difference is npm composer is PHP's version. Not "frameworks".

I was referring to frameworks for creating modular code in PHP.. not a package manager called "frameworks"

Re: Node.js and the new web front-end

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Post by hackula1 » Fri, Oct 11, 2013, 3:17 PM UTC

CmonDev wrote: post #141

hackula1 wrote: post #94

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Yeah this strikes me as the usual "language X sucks, because dynamic languages suck".

Not really, scripting has it's good uses. It's just wrong to use scripts to replace programming languages for all tasks.

A "scripting language" is a programming language. "Scripting" is a completely useless description, and is usually used to stoke a flamewar.