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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by pyrocat »

agentultra wrote: post #94
potatolicious wrote: post #7

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

This is going to sound inflammatory but I basically consider anyone younger than around 25 to be functionally insane . They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. You're busy cultivating a sense of identity, I get it. But more often than not you grow up and find yourself in love with som…

Ageism is dumb, and I rally against it now as an adult as much as I did when I was 15.

> "but I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag"

Maybe that's because you surround yourself with people who have similar outlooks? That doesn't mean that all people over 30 are above high school bullshit. And it certainly doesn't mean that all people under 25 are perpetuating high school bullshit. There is really no reason to bring age into this conversation at all. You're just confirming your own bias.

tl;dr condemn the behavior, not the demographic that you feel is representative of the behavior

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by TomGullen »

I keep saying it, taking photos of random people out in public not hurting anyone for the intention of posting online and ridicule is one of the most vulgar, inconsiderate modern phenomenons that seems to be socially acceptable.

Its the ugly, non creative side of accessibility in modern technology that hurts people sometimes significantly. If someone did it to me, I would probably be very hurt. "Look at this super ugly fat guy on my bus!" That ugly fat guy might of just mustered enough courage over the last week to step outside and as a result he gets ambushed in a hurtful demeaning way. It's not just the post, imagine going outside and noticing people slyly trying to snap pictures of you, how would you feel?

These sorts of posts are often veiled behind a thin curtain of pathetic vacuous wit. People need to call this sort of behaviour out more.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by EvanKelly »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #145
EvanKelly wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very presumptuous of you to assume that "hipsters" don't actually enjoy the things they do.

If they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.

What's wrong with enjoying the feeling of being counterculture?

This whole anti-hipster sentiment is so bizarre to me. It's all about policing other peoples' fashion/taste/activities without reason. The idea that hipsters are somehow not genuine doesn't make any sense. What is there to be genuine to?

If you use an old film camera because you like the photos it takes and are fascinated by how it operates, more power to you.

If you use an old film camera because you think it looks cool around your neck, more power to you.

If you use an old film camera because you like the fact that you're one of the only people using one, more power to you.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by smsm42 »

Torgo wrote: post #66
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On top of it, geek culture is a hipster culture. Oh you listen to obscure geeky bands and wear comic/anime t-shirts all the time? You purposely disengage from mainstream society? You're overly critical of the status quo and only socialize with people exactly like you? Gee, that sounds like the guy you're criticizing.

I can't help but feel that a large portion of the current "geek culture" is a collection of appropriations from a different group, selected for "authenticity", similar to criticisms of the wider hipster culture. I wore thick-rim glasses because 1. I didn't/couldn't care about fashion 2. my parents didn't have the money for nicer frames and 3. I actually could not see without glasses. So yeah, when I see thick rim gla…

So you are hating some actual person because years ago some other person which has absolutely nothing to do with the first person except for you classifying the as "same class of person" did something bad to you? Are you realizing that in this scenario you are the problem and if only you stopped classifying people by "classes" and started treating them as individuals there would be no reason for annoyance at all?

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by Dylan16807 »

derefr wrote: post #125
potatolicious wrote: post #7

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

I find it interesting how the word "hipster" has morphed in usage over the last five-or-so years. Originally, as far as I could tell, it had a specific meaning: "someone who prefers unknown bands just for their being unknown, and dislikes well-known bands just for their being well-known." This, obviously, is a person to not hold in high regard--their mannerism, after all, is entirely defined by contempt for the major…

Has it really changed that way? As far as I'm aware it still carries the requirement they the person defines themselves via contrarianism and contempt; that image is just a big blinking warning sign.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by jlgreco »

agentultra wrote: post #94
potatolicious wrote: post #7

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

This is going to sound inflammatory but I basically consider anyone younger than around 25 to be functionally insane . They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. You're busy cultivating a sense of identity, I get it. But more often than not you grow up and find yourself in love with som…

"I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag. They'd get funny looks and people might think, "What is this, high school!?""

Yuppie douchebag on the other hand...

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by [deleted] »

drcode wrote: post #130
canthonytucci wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context is so important. I remember seeing this on reddit and thinking that surely it must be staged satire, poking fun at the types (pun intended) of people one sees around Chelsea. Without the context of it being a piece of (really rather compelling) performance art, the photo looks like a person who is trying very hard to be noticed.

I guess the issue for me is that there is a cachet in our society for successful artists- That's why so many people want to try art, because art is "cool". But the reason art is cool is PRECISELY BECAUSE artists have to take risks and stick their necks out and have to be able to take the heat if their art gets a bad reception. It seems to me OP wanted the cachet of doing art, but doesn't want to accept the risk that…

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by smsm42 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #145
EvanKelly wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very presumptuous of you to assume that "hipsters" don't actually enjoy the things they do.

If they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.

No true Scotsman! (http://is.gd/rnFMt7)

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by 3rd3 »

actionscripted wrote: post #11

To add to the discussion/close the loop: http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1mp79c/i_am_an_o... Having been on Reddit for more than 6 years, what always blows me away are these "lessons". Sure, everyone backpedals a bit and thinks, "gee, he's not the douchebag hipster we thought and we acted like assholes" but it happens over, and over and over. As others have also mentioned in here, I'm always amazed that t…

Being bullied once does not mean that you are immune to the temptation of segregating someone. It still requires some thinking and empathy to withstand that temptation.
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