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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Groxx » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:42 PM UTC

markbao wrote: post #150

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

As a vim user, I feel as if the essence of vim is an extension of my mind . Much like riding a bicycle, I instinctively think "select this line and the four lines below it and copy it" as "V4jy" with little cognitive thought. Kind of cool from a cognitive science standpoint.

I've been in and out of vim, but never reached the 'extension' point. Probably due to lack of necessity, and Java work has pushed me further away :/ But mind if I ask why you select instead of e.g. "5yy"? Used to thinking visually, or does it do something different with buffers, or...?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by sntran » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:47 PM UTC

laacz wrote: post #152

First thing I tried out was - does it close . Yes, it does: " ". I'm really happy with lots of sublime text features. But this simple untested completion error stunned me.

div{Tab} does the completion for me.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Groxx » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:51 PM UTC

nahname wrote: post #137

leeoniya wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Syntax / Code folding i don't use code-folding either, but blaming the users for writing poor code is a pretty shitty excuse not to implement the most requested feature. - Matching HTML/XML tags - Better, or customizable match_brackets style just because something can be done via an extension, doesn't mean that it should be done that way. The most popular extensions, i think, belong in the core. Whether you think a…

>Syntax / Code folding I was hesitant to add that comment, but it needs to be said. Pushing people into the pit of success is a good thing. Sucks to read 10,000 line files? Stop writing 10,000 line files. I also really like how fast sublime is. Coming from an IDE for about 6 years, this is one of the features I like the most. Code folding is bloat. >Whether you think any of these points are valid is your personal opi…

Re folding: what about inherited codebases, via github or your company or whatever? That seems to me to be the vast majority of source code being read / edited in the world, and odds are you can't simply change it on a whim.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by laacz » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:51 PM UTC

sntran wrote: post #162

laacz wrote: post #152

First thing I tried out was - does it close . Yes, it does: " ". I'm really happy with lots of sublime text features. But this simple untested completion error stunned me.

div{Tab} does the completion for me.

Completion worked, but it was wrong. "".

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by groovy2shoes » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:52 PM UTC

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

I know some excellent developers who write all their code in Notepad. Hell, I wrote a fairly large Java application in Notepad when I was in uni. It wasn't that bad.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by jhawk28 » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:53 PM UTC

iurisilvio wrote: post #131

ST3 still crashes a lot in Windows. I have at least one crash/day. I have no idea why this is happening.

It is probably a plugin. Mine has not crashed in months.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by gnud » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:57 PM UTC

unicornporn wrote: post #13

First "Core feature" for version 3: Speed. I can't recall that I have ever felt that a text editor was "slow".

You have obviously never opened a 200MB xml file in Sublime Text :)

Notepad++ is a lot quicker for those.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by frou_dh » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 6:06 PM UTC

dsego wrote: post #158

How come on OS X the theme colors are considerably darker in sublime than textmate? Something to do with gamma settings or color profiles? For me solarized dark is almost unusable in st, in textmate it is not as dim (solarized light in st has inverted selection, which annoys the hell out of me).

Check whether the theme definitions actually contain the same colour values. There are a lot of unversioned XML files floating around the TM/ST universe.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by nahname » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 6:11 PM UTC

Groxx wrote: post #163

nahname wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Syntax / Code folding I was hesitant to add that comment, but it needs to be said. Pushing people into the pit of success is a good thing. Sucks to read 10,000 line files? Stop writing 10,000 line files. I also really like how fast sublime is. Coming from an IDE for about 6 years, this is one of the features I like the most. Code folding is bloat. >Whether you think any of these points are valid is your personal opi…

Re folding: what about inherited codebases, via github or your company or whatever? That seems to me to be the vast majority of source code being read / edited in the world, and odds are you can't simply change it on a whim.

I think that pain is a great motivator to refactor the code base. I understand that pain, I have been there. But coming from an IDE that supported code folding, I can say two things about it. First, it only helps marginally. Second, it makes occurrences of large files even more prevalent.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by frou_dh » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 6:14 PM UTC

groovy2shoes wrote: post #165

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

I know some excellent developers who write all their code in Notepad. Hell, I wrote a fairly large Java application in Notepad when I was in uni. It wasn't that bad.

You at least want to maintain indentation for new lines.