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What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by MartinCron »

swdunlop wrote: post #18

A quick scan of the project source doesn't suggest that "it makes my eyes bleed" was a fair criticism. It isn't going to cure cancer or solve deep problems, but who cares? The world is full of projects where people just snap a few cogs together and hit "Show HN" on their way to "... 3) Profit." If you are going to put something in the public space, you have to be ready for any trolls in the vicinity to take a dump on…

"It makes my eyes bleed" is never fair criticism. It's vapid and meaningless and if I can implore just one person to stop saying it, I will feel like I have achieved something with my life.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by anthonyb »

shardling wrote: post #144
diego wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He does. This was pretty nasty. http://shutupmauro.com/

Yelling at someone you're in an argument with is a world away from picking on a stranger. (It's not necessarily good , but it is categorically different behavior.)

Dressing down someone like that on a public mailing list is absolutely picking on them. It's not an argument, and is basically no different to the behaviour here.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by kysol »

I'm amazed someone hasn't said "well that escalated quickly".

On topic, I've never really released code due to being scared of peer-disapproval, and also paranoid from the public display of potential attack vectors I haven't seen. I don't think that I will ever open source a live project due to these issues.

You should never say "that's bad code" without giving a reason why, and or showing how to make the code better. It's like walking out of a new release block buster movie and saying in a louder than normal voice "well that movie was bad". Anyone that can hear is going to start questioning, "what movie?", "why was it bad?", and instantly they are going to start wondering if the next 3 hours of their life is going to be wasted.

Basically I put this down to a generation of self absorbed twats that like to hear their own voice, and feel all warm and fuzzy inside when ever they grunt something "amusing" to their minions.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by jamesaguilar »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #150
mintplant wrote: post #43

> Steve Klabnik ‏@steveklabnik > @harthvader @zeeg nothing's _wrong_ with it, but I don't want to build my app on top of others' code who are at this level of understanding This message [1] in particular is absolutely disgusting. Someone hacked together a script that met their needs, and threw it up onto GitHub in case anyone else found it useful? Yes, let's take the opportunity to condescendingly insult their mental…

Steve Klabnik: "I find it incredibly hard not to be judgmental. I'm not sure what part of my personality makes this happen, but even when I try to curb tearing down other people, I end up doing it anyway. I'm not sure if it's just me, but I think part of the problem is that these kinds of things are rewarded." http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2010-09-24-trolling-is-a-...

Textbook weasel apology.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by jamesaguilar »

readme wrote: post #106
yen223 wrote: post #97

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Here's the thing, when someone like Linus Torvald says things like that, we applaud him for it.

I'm not sure if that's the same thing. Linus usually criticizes things in a way that actually points out the flaws. This guy is just essentially saying "LOL U SUCK"

And with Linus, it's not usually about the person (unless the person is actually being obstinate or negligent).

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by babs474 »

DanBC wrote: post #136
kyro wrote: post #121

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At this point, I blame it on the assumption that Aspergers must run rampant and is severely underdiagnosed in the dev community.

I understand your point, but "makes my eyes bleed" is not a typical comment from a neuro-atypical person. The neuro-typical can be assholes too.

Neuro-typical people can be assholes, but they tend to understand that they are being an asshole when they act asshole-ish.

I think a big problem in the dev community is a lot of asshole behavior out there from people who don't intend to, or even _understand_ that they are being an asshole.

Regardless of intent, this asshole behavior has consequences on neuro-typical and atypical people alike.

I think nerdy/geeky/dev/asberger/whatever people need to be more mindful of how they interact with people. Unfortunately the recent asberger pride movement doesn't help.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by moe »

diego wrote: post #126
shardling wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linus doesn't say things like that. If you don't understand the difference of context, well, look again!

He does. This was pretty nasty. http://shutupmauro.com/

Do you really not see the difference between Linus Torvalds recalibrating a kernel contributor and three nobodies of questionable "conference-fame" picking on a random stranger?
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