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Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by abhgh »

asdfman123 wrote: post #151
jeanbza wrote: post #115

My first language is Afrikaans, which is a somewhat niche language and hard to find teachers/conversation buddies outside South Africa. (I live in USA now) I've been using Gemini to live chat in Afrikaans and do impromptu Afrikaans grammar lessons during my solo drives around town. It is phenomenal at speaking the language - like, it really shocks my family members when they hear it. This is probably the most joy I g…

I love Gemini in Google Maps for long drives. I start getting bored of music and podcasts and start grilling it with random questions I've always wondered about.

I do this too! Usually some idea in ML ...when I am driving I might suddenly remember what I was thinking about and then it is my personal podcast via Gemini-in-Maps. My only complaint is if you have follow up questions, you have to be quick, otherwise it cuts off the mic.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by vrosas »

BenzeneDream wrote: post #138
safog wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it's a harness thing or a model thing at this point. I feel all coding models are quite capable for most tasks I want them to do. Most of the time I don't need what the bench tests and I'm not really giving them completely ambiguous tasks without any refinement. I only find marginal differences between models at this point and it almost feels like personality quirks in each model than anything.

When comparing OpenAI and Claude thats pretty much true, but not Gemini... And have you tried Antigravity? Yikes

The CLI version of agy is great. Have you tried it?

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by ramijames »

jeanbza wrote: post #115

My first language is Afrikaans, which is a somewhat niche language and hard to find teachers/conversation buddies outside South Africa. (I live in USA now) I've been using Gemini to live chat in Afrikaans and do impromptu Afrikaans grammar lessons during my solo drives around town. It is phenomenal at speaking the language - like, it really shocks my family members when they hear it. This is probably the most joy I g…

I've been building a language learning app which uses AI voice chat to let people practice. Would that be something interesting for you to try out? It's all still rough, but we've been learning Japanese with it and its pretty cool.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by asdfman123 »

abhgh wrote: post #161
asdfman123 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Gemini in Google Maps for long drives. I start getting bored of music and podcasts and start grilling it with random questions I've always wondered about.

I do this too! Usually some idea in ML ...when I am driving I might suddenly remember what I was thinking about and then it is my personal podcast via Gemini-in-Maps. My only complaint is if you have follow up questions, you have to be quick, otherwise it cuts off the mic.

I feel like a 10 year old all over again with my frequency of questions.

How did the early Roman Empire interact with Greek city states?

How are LLMs planning on learning new information on the fly without new context or retraining runs?

Why did mom leave?

You know, standard stuff.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by willy_k »

comex wrote: post #158
amelius wrote: post #145

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How do you know you're using Astra? My ChatGPT env only says "low", "medium", "high". Is this a "pro" thing? I have totally no idea what I'm talking to, so actually I'm thinking of stopping my plan. Gemini and Claude are much more clear about it. Anyway, I like the speed at which Gemini responds so indeed for simple things it is preferable.

For me (Plus plan, iOS app), Astra only shows up under the Work tab. I’ve been using Work for all my queries, since it seems to just be the same interface as Chat but with more features. I don’t understand why they’re two separate things.

For the old school (I hate that that’s arguably applicable) AI dating types, and so on. The people using it not for productivity.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by chicagobuss »

WarmWash wrote: post #11
Zsfe510asG wrote: post #4

Gemini is underrated in that it produces the only prose that is somewhat bearable to read.

For heavyweight work I have been using Astra, but for rabbit holes and brain storming Gemini is far more enjoyable to interact with. I'm worried in their push to catch up on the SOTA front, it's going to lose that natural sounding touch it currently has.

It's entirely possible that in their testing of newer models, the whole problem is that even if it's doing better in benchmarks, maybe it's insufferable to work with, thus they're not releasing it.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by 3stacks »

jeanbza wrote: post #115

My first language is Afrikaans, which is a somewhat niche language and hard to find teachers/conversation buddies outside South Africa. (I live in USA now) I've been using Gemini to live chat in Afrikaans and do impromptu Afrikaans grammar lessons during my solo drives around town. It is phenomenal at speaking the language - like, it really shocks my family members when they hear it. This is probably the most joy I g…

My father-in-law was saying the same thing about Gemini 12 months ago regarding the Afrikaans speech. I've tried a few of them in my studies but none of them could seem to switch between English/Afrikaans except Gemini. It's an interesting time to be a language learner

As jy wil, ons kan saam praat op Discord :) maar my Afrikaans is sleg

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by le-mark »

riddlemethat wrote: post #112
thisgoodlife wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m curious how you guys keep track of each model’s coding capabilities. The landscape keeps changing. I don’t suppose you benchmark all frontier models every other month, right?

I use them. Daily. Gemini hasn’t been a contender by comparison for a long time.

I did a test involving implementing cobol control flow in Java for a source to source translation project. Gemini was the only model to get the edge cases. Cobol is very peculiar in this regard.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking

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Post by written-beyond »

ramijames wrote: post #163
jeanbza wrote: post #115

My first language is Afrikaans, which is a somewhat niche language and hard to find teachers/conversation buddies outside South Africa. (I live in USA now) I've been using Gemini to live chat in Afrikaans and do impromptu Afrikaans grammar lessons during my solo drives around town. It is phenomenal at speaking the language - like, it really shocks my family members when they hear it. This is probably the most joy I g…

I've been building a language learning app which uses AI voice chat to let people practice. Would that be something interesting for you to try out? It's all still rough, but we've been learning Japanese with it and its pretty cool.

I want to, I have like a 2000+ day streak on Duolingo and I know I can only gain fluency once I start speaking it more.
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