A/I shuts down

Post by 1271z23 » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:43 PM UTC

strictnein wrote: post #154

coldpie wrote: post #85

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The US Republican party has been inventing an increasingly elaborate alternate reality fiction in order to convince their voters to keep voting for policy positions that obviously work against those voters' own interests. One component of this alternate reality is a fictional terrorist organization called "antifa." They claim that anyone who does not align with their policies is a member of this organization. This al…

> "They claim that anyone who does not align with their policies is a member of this organization" No one is claiming that Amy Klobuchar or Gavin Newsom is a member of antifa.

Post by mahkeiro » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:43 PM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #76

RonanSoleste wrote: post #67

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Europe is decoupling itself all ready also. Using SEPA-Inst and wero.

Unfortunately decoupling payments within the EU is insufficient if the US can just threaten to sanction your bank, and in doing so force the bank to drop you as a customer. Even in the presence of an internal European payments network, those banks still need to transact with the US and other US-sphere countries...

Post by well_ackshually » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:44 PM UTC

NostraDavid wrote: post #122

lukan wrote: post #36

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"They promoted and hosted violent/terrorist activity." What kind exactly?

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20... Check the near the bottom. Some are named, such as Armed Proletarian Justice, Revolutionary Class Self-Defense, and Jane’s Revenge, but some unnamed ones as well (at least their actions have been described).

Post by goosejuice » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:47 PM UTC

phyzome wrote: post #70

hermannj314 wrote: post #29

I am first hearing about this group today, but here is some context: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20... Apparently they provide the digital infrastructure for violent Antifa cells and because of a 9/11 related executive order, the A/I is able to be branded a sponsor of terrorism. I guess this makes it a crime to give them money or provide aid to them (if you are a US citizen). EDIT: who i…

I think people are downvoting you for several reasons: - Taking administration propaganda pieces at face value (such as the batshit insane page you linked to) - Referring to "violent antifa cells". That's the spin Trump has been trying to put on the groups of people who have been resisting fascism. (Do you know what "antifa" stands for?)

Post by Grombobulous » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:47 PM UTC

pepperoni_pizza wrote: post #130

Grombobulous wrote: post #108

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Here’s the thing though: if even some of the examples given in the state department page are true (some of them are rather silly), that A/I knowingly provided services to groups that verifiably did some rather violent things they are accused of, I’m not sure how they expected to hide behind their mission. My impression is that they didn’t say “hey we don’t have customer information but we don’t service violent groups…

> “we designed this to be anonymous and specifically intend/expect for it to be used in any way regardless of legality and are okay with it.” That is also what Signal does. Or absolutely any end-to-end encrypted communication service at all - these are explicitly designed not to retain details of communication. Do you want to declare them terrorists too?