"it's just marketing everyone does it"
Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
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#162I find intensive marketing/PR efforts are often inversely correlated with the claims being made - whether it's products or geopolitics. Israel certainly engages in very intense marketing on certain fronts, but truth cannot be obscured forever. In Physics the law of conservation includes not only matter and energy, but also information (Information cannot be destroyed from the Universe).
I've also found this to be true, but also only in relatively modern times. For instance during the Cold War there was an obscene amount of propaganda, but it was mostly true. For instance the wide array of cheap affordable goods in American shelves was constantly flaunted, but not in the least bit misleading. I don't understand the modern effort to engage in 'information warfare' as a thing in and of itself. Each tim…
The difference between American and Russian propaganda is that Russians know it's propaganda.
Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
#163I find intensive marketing/PR efforts are often inversely correlated with the claims being made - whether it's products or geopolitics. Israel certainly engages in very intense marketing on certain fronts, but truth cannot be obscured forever. In Physics the law of conservation includes not only matter and energy, but also information (Information cannot be destroyed from the Universe).
One goal of modern propaganda is to make it irrelevant when the truth inevitably comes out.
Look at the US situation. It’s clear that Trump is a rapist - the truth has come out. It’s clear he’s corrupt. For all the “release the full Epstein files” discussion, it really wouldn’t change anything.
The truth will come out but will the people who can make it matter be listening?
Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait till you hear what Palestinian leaders say on TV.
Still waiting
"We will repeat oct 7 over and over until Isreal is destroyed" and Hamad still supports that statement and maintains that Oct 7th was good and violence against Isreal is always justified.
Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
#165I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…
Sama saw this coming a decade away, which is why he invested in Worldcoin (now World). At some point people (and agents) will be clamoring for human verification at the speed of technology.
I'm not a fan of World, but this is a portent of things to come. Spread the disease, sell the cure as they say.
Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
#166I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…
Propaganda is not a new thing. It might look slightly different on the internet, but it doesn't look that different. Creating organizations to push a narrative was just as much a thing 100 years ago as it is now.
Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
#167What does it means to be a "fake" think tank? 80% of think tanks are already propaganda vehicles. A low end think tank is basically a pretentious blog.
>What does it means to be a "fake" think tank?
presumably that you don't have employees that do any of the proverbial thinking, which is the case here.
Every think tank has its biases and funding sources but something like RAND is an actual entity at which people do research, this "Hanover Public Policy Institute" has nothing to do with Hanover, policy and isn't an institute, but a deliberately misleadingly presenting arm of the Israeli government proxied through a German advertising company
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He specified "terrorists", See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49340403 for actual sources, including in Hebrew (although it was flagged to death for reasons unknown). That message a reply to YOU, but that didn't stop you from posting the same false info multiple times in this thread.
I'm not sure how you sleep at night.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
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> Qatar lies Netanyahu said that "Qatar is not an enemy country". Is he wrong about that? https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-14/ty-article/.p...
I don’t support Netanyahu, and so does close to 50% of Israelis.
Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges.
If you don’t trust Netanyahu then you should disregard the link you shared as well and that just strengthens my point.
Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait till you hear what Palestinian leaders say on TV.
well on one side you have huge military on other side you have a pile of rocks that used to be a city. so comparing these its does not make israel look better.
I dont care about making Isreal look good. I'm just pointing out that both sides use violent rhetoric because as you can see from this thread people did not know. I think sometimes people forget that the war was started intentionally with full knowledge what would happen.