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The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by UltraSane »

sneak wrote: post #138
UltraSane wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish people were assigned a identity certificate with public and private key at birth.

What happens when they lose it? What happens when someone else gets a copy of the private key? What happens when every app, website, and mobile OS requires a signature for every single post or message, tying all communication to an identity that the government can retaliate against? This creates many more problems than it solves.

The private key would be generated and stored on the most secure hardware security modules like how AWS stores many billions of symetric and asymmetric keys.

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Post by okayishdefaults »

msandford wrote: post #150
larsnystrom wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. As you said, Ireland might comply, which would’ve solved this particular issue.

Yes it's true we shouldn't let perfect be the enemy of good. But good also has to be good enough to solve the problem without creating more problems faster than it solves them. It's fine to propose a solution but if people aren't convinced just throwing an aphorism grenade at them isn't productive.

I like to tack on "good enough" when throwing this particular aphorism grenade

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Post by tialaramex »

saejox wrote: post #104

Not exactly the same still i would like to share my horror story. Google decided to ban my many years old account. Reason: account created by computer program. Likely flagged me because i use multiple computer and connect from other wifi. Whats worse is i am a monetized youtube partner with million+ views. Youtube support (@TeamYoutube) just say "it is a google problem" All appeals are handled by bots, there is no wa…

The recurring recipe for Jill Bearup has been after exhausting all the "appeal" and "support" processes which are hopeless and either can't or won't help, to ask for the underlying data so that you can understand their decision. In the EU [and because it was once a member of the EU when this rule was enacted, the UK] you're legally entitled to that data because you are its subject.

So far, getting the data hasn't happened once AFAIK but magically she's unbanned/ unblocked/ whatever.

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Post by dghlsakjg »

boxed wrote: post #82
Macha wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ireland has a PPS number which everyone who’s ever had a job or claimed government benefits has. The union of those sets is basically everyone. Clearly that hasn’t helped.

Well.. yea, because it's the US that creates the list, and they don't know or understand that systems like ID numbers exists.

Or they understand that ID numbers are a less than perfect way to identify people.

I’m applying for a second citizenship. That means that I can have two national ids that are unlinked. In the US, you can petition to have your SSN number changed, as well, so that doesn’t work. If you are willing to commit crimes and lie, it isn’t that hard to spin up an entirely new identity. Some people are born to parents that don’t notify the government. The real world is incredibly messy.

If I were to be placed on a list with one passport/id, I could just use a different one.

The bigger issue is that the list is meant as a risk alert, but companies treat a match as truth because the penalty for doing business with a sanctioned entity is far higher than whatever they might lose by not hiring someone mistakenly.

What you need, at minimum, if you are going to make these lists is an easy way for false positive people to prove they aren’t the person named (tsa/homeland security have a “redress number” you can provide if you have the same name as someone on their list). Then a legal requirement that anyone checking this list must also ask for additional documentation if they are making a decision based on a hit.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

I used to own a very small, very niche retail business that produced a specific part for analog synthesizers. I had customers in literally nearly every nation on earth, and I was surprised by how many times I received returned package for shipping to a person who was “sanctioned” by the US Government. It was probably something like 1 out of every 100 packages. In each case, the person on the receiving end was surprised to hear about the sanction and I honestly believe most were mistaken identity like the article in this post. When it happens, it’s nearly impossible to do anything about it.

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Post by lmz »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #98
ramraj07 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the SSN in the US too though.

One good reason to introduce a national ID system in the US would be in order to replace and deprecate the Social Security Number, which is a terrible system that never should have been used as a de-facto national ID system.

Something tells me the people misusing the SSN would just misuse this new national ID number too. Wasn't the issue that people were treating knowledge of the (de facto public) ID number as proof of identity? Nothing is stopping them from doing the same with any future ID number.
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