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Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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A website being used in a web browser seems to you like an edge case?! Really? If that's really a common view, we really did lose the plot.

For a social media site on mobile, yes.

We really lost the plot, then. None of the user-facing and user-benefiting features of the social media apps need native-specific capabilities.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Reddit is dominated by the left, but there are other voice audible. Twitter has plenty of leftists. They are very, very, very easy to find, as is every other shape and size of political, ideological, or spiritual thought; far easier than, say, a non-leftist viewpoint on the worldnews or politics subreddits, which because of their default status are much more inescapable than any one Twitter account. There are very, v…

nobody fucking cares what mark cuban has to say.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #149

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For a social media site on mobile, yes.

We really lost the plot, then. None of the user-facing and user-benefiting features of the social media apps need native-specific capabilities.

It's never about the technology or if it's theoretically feasible but that tracking, push notifications and ad blocking are much better handled in mobile apps for most platforms.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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This thread is primed for shitting on Bluesky, but the level of discourse among the people I follow has only grown over the past few years. In no way does it feel like a dying platform. (Same for Mastodon, actually.)

You can tell who here doesn't use bluesky. They're self reporting. It's like going to chicago, seeing a homeless person act crazy, then leaving and telling everyone that it's a crime ridden shit hole. They're just parroting the same shit everyone else who's never used it are parroting

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Maybe Bluesky is not quite the Twitter rival it set out to be, but it's got a better shot than Mastodon, according to the user count graphs here: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats https://mastodon-analytics.com/ Bluesky has a higher total user count. I think the number of active users might be higher too, but I am not sure what's mastodon's definition of an active user for the second link above. Anecdotally, Bluesky feels…

I don't know what you're seeing in those stats. Bluesky has been shedding users since the inauguration. Mastodon is virtually a hobby project consisting of private servers that could run indefinitely as long as somebody finds it useful for communication in their community.

Neither have any shot of being a twitter replacement. Bluesky has a culture problem and a dishonesty about being p2p problem, and mastodon is too slow/heavy and has a mod problem that is intolerable without a better story about user mobility between servers.

Twitter may just die by itself if somehow a better way for people to publicize their work comes into existence, but all traditional means have been rolled up into big opinionated gatekeeping conglomerates who simply ignore things that compete with any of their interests or threaten any of their advertisers or owners. But even if twitter dies, people aren't moving to bluesky or mastodon.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We really lost the plot, then. None of the user-facing and user-benefiting features of the social media apps need native-specific capabilities.

It's never about the technology or if it's theoretically feasible but that tracking, push notifications and ad blocking are much better handled in mobile apps for most platforms.

I'm not sure I follow. Do you think that someone using the Twitter app is more or less tracked than someone using their mobile web browser?

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's never about the technology or if it's theoretically feasible but that tracking, push notifications and ad blocking are much better handled in mobile apps for most platforms.

I'm not sure I follow. Do you think that someone using the Twitter app is more or less tracked than someone using their mobile web browser?

More, as you have the advertising identifiers from Apple / Google on mobile and you are also not able to block tracking scripts / tracking ads like on mobile web (At least not without more effort or installing additional software or a vpn).

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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We get to block them. They may exist but they’re invisible. The bots and trolls and agents on X are always on your front porch.

Interesting, because X is able to work the same. When an obvious bot follows an X account, the user can simply block the bot. Also, your X feed can be configured to show posts only from accounts you follow in chronological order, so if you're following a bot, that's on you. Oh, and X hides replies that are probable spam from bots, though you can view them if you'd like. With my X account, they're around but definitel…

They're charging on windows like hordes of zombies attracted to smell of flesh leaking from a bus as it inches forward. It's a horrible sight.

They're all paid accounts mostly claiming to be from poorer ex-Commonwelath colonies and some deep South Asia, slowly spreading eastward. Many are obviously pasting LLM generated responses, sometimes even leaving in "here are response ideas for such tweet" parts. They're slowly giving up on trying to say anything relevant to Twitter trends and resorting to cultist Islamic or biblical something, but they're still operating in some crazy numbers. Blocking or reporting makes no difference since they never get banned anyway and the accounts are constantly rotated. You can't block 10m acccounts manually.

It just makes no sense that this is even a naturally occurring problem that can be mitigated by some tips and tricks. Clearly it's organized, connected, with a lot of money and effort poured in.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Reddit is dominated by the left, but there are other voice audible. Twitter has plenty of leftists. They are very, very, very easy to find, as is every other shape and size of political, ideological, or spiritual thought; far easier than, say, a non-leftist viewpoint on the worldnews or politics subreddits, which because of their default status are much more inescapable than any one Twitter account. There are very, v…

nobody fucking cares what mark cuban has to say.

Cuban is the #2 most-followed Bluesky user. https://bluecrawler.com/>

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Maybe Bluesky is not quite the Twitter rival it set out to be, but it's got a better shot than Mastodon, according to the user count graphs here: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats https://mastodon-analytics.com/ Bluesky has a higher total user count. I think the number of active users might be higher too, but I am not sure what's mastodon's definition of an active user for the second link above. Anecdotally, Bluesky feels…

Just look at the total post stat. It's declining. I don't know if it means total daily or total in past x days, or actual cumulative total, but I don't think it's supposed to be that flat.
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