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Post by pjc50 »

jebarker wrote: post #18
Waterluvian wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or possibly ever again. Eras like this one can be what kills an empire/great power. I think one of the greater risks to a power like the U.S. is getting old enough where it's felt like things always were , and therefore always will be . When there is no-longer a grandparent at the dinner table who can even tell you when his grandparent at the dinner table spoke about the before times.

> Eras like this one can be what kills an empire/great power. Is there actually any good analogue for this era that caused a previous empire or great power to collapse?

Last time we discussed US collapse I wrote about the Chinese empire: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49211339

I would also deploy Adam Smith's "there is a lot of ruin in a nation". The US can withstand a few bad years provided it corrects.

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Post by goatlover »

tho23u434079 wrote: post #95

I'm surprised this isn't an impeachable offence.

The Republicans still control Congress at least until the new Congress is seated in January. At which point the House may impeach Trump for one of many crimes. But it's unlikely the Senate will have enough votes to convict, even if Democrats also take it back.

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Post by ceejayoz »

datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #148
jebarker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Eras like this one can be what kills an empire/great power. Is there actually any good analogue for this era that caused a previous empire or great power to collapse?

I think the whole “empire collapsing” is a bit of a dramatized phrasing, though historians can correct me. I think it’s much more death by a thousand cuts, and the UK is a great analogue in that regard. Look at Brexit, for example. Or Black Wednesday, from which the US’s esteemed Treasury Secretary profited handsomely. The UK’s decline has taken centuries, though, and there are many events that one can point to. I th…

> I think the whole “empire collapsing” is a bit of a dramatized phrasing, though historians can correct me. I think it’s much more death by a thousand cuts, and the UK is a great analogue in that regard.

Didn't the UK's empire notably collapse quite rapidly?

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Post by bryanlarsen »

c7b wrote: post #113
ceejayoz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empi... > The Roman Empire lost the strengths that had allowed it to exercise effective control over its Western provinces; modern historians posit factors including the effectiveness and numbers of the army (check) , the health and numbers of the Roman population (check) , the strength of the economy (check) , the competence of the emperors (check) , the intern…

The decline of the Roman Empire, depending on how you define it, played out over centuries, if not a millennium. It is such a bad analogy for the kind of within-our-lifetimes collapse that is being speculated about here that it undermines the original concern. The decline of Germany as the leading scientific powerhouse in the first half if the 20th century would be a better case study imho.

Sure, but it's also likely that some (but not all) historians will put the peak of the American Empire in the 1960's somewhere, perhaps onat the moon landing. Declines often start out slow and are often indistinguishable from random noise until well after the fact, and there will be rises and falls after the peak.

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

s_dev wrote: post #62
Lendal wrote: post #33

If a rival political party takes power in 2029 and they decide to do nothing about this, are they complicit? If the cops drive past a mugging, observe, and then drive on past allowing the law to go unenforced, are they not just as corrupt as the robbers?

Was the Union army complicit in the crimes of the Confederacy by simply allowing them to drop their arms and walk away as well? The world is complicated and full of nuanced takes depending on context. That said: >If a rival political party takes power in 2029 and they decide to do nothing about this, are they complicit? Like this really does read as: I still blame the Democrats for the crimes of the Republicans. The…

It’s funny you bring up Union vs Confederacy, because Reconstruction should be a blueprint of what not to do. We’re still paying today for the failures of our forefathers to not have the bravery to stamp out the worst cultural elements of the Confederacy, let alone the extended century-long suffering of formerly enslaved peoples in what ranged from “separate but equal” to outright apartheid.

So yes, it was very much the Union’s fault for not properly cutting the many heads of the hydra with great prejudice.

Edit: the Nuremberg trials are a fantastic blueprint for what to do, though. And that’s what was missing after the Civil War. The sentences handed out at Nuremberg aren’t necessarily relevant to the crimes committed by those in power today, but the cultural shift that materialized in Germany post-war is the type of cultural shift needed to counteract the damage of the current administration: against corruption, grift, and executive overreach.

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Post by specproc »

c7b wrote: post #113
ceejayoz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empi... > The Roman Empire lost the strengths that had allowed it to exercise effective control over its Western provinces; modern historians posit factors including the effectiveness and numbers of the army (check) , the health and numbers of the Roman population (check) , the strength of the economy (check) , the competence of the emperors (check) , the intern…

The decline of the Roman Empire, depending on how you define it, played out over centuries, if not a millennium. It is such a bad analogy for the kind of within-our-lifetimes collapse that is being speculated about here that it undermines the original concern. The decline of Germany as the leading scientific powerhouse in the first half if the 20th century would be a better case study imho.

The US isn't Rome, it's Constantinople. Rome was Europe, the 20th century was about the colonial appendage achieving supremacy over the former imperial centre.

If you want a lesson in what to avoid to maintain dominance, it's internal conflict, that's what wrecked the European empire.

Good luck with that. Trump and Co will dig in. When they fall, there will be blood.

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Post by pjc50 »

tho23u434079 wrote: post #95

I'm surprised this isn't an impeachable offence.

Impeachment requires a Democrat majority.

(for some reason this attracted a downvote? Obviously Republicans are never going to impeach a Republican President? I cannot imagine why you would think they would?)

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Post by Eueudhsbsj32 »

jazzypants wrote: post #159
Eueudhsbsj32 wrote: post #154

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> You're not going to get a real response. They're here. They literally just ignore it. But that is the real response. All politicians do some things that you disagree with, so even if you hate some of their behavior, you can still end up supporting them if on balance their policy decisions are more aligned with your interests.

I see what you're saying, but ignoring something is withholding a response by definition. Generally, I accept slight dissonance with politicians on matters of policy. I don't think it's okay to accept politicians blatantly breaking the law and sneering in the face of culpability.

That's true and what makes poltical topics frustrating and mostly pointless to discuss online.

There's very little incentive to engage with the topic in an intellectually honest way. Most would prefer to only contribute in a way that paints their team in a better light.

I guess that's why any political topics should be avoided on HN. Even with perfect moderation, one can't avoid the biases of individuals selecting when to or not to contribute to a discussion.

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #114
Toutouxc wrote: post #9

Insider trading as a service. No one is going to take the US seriously for the next 50 years.

The messed up part is that it's not even technically insider trading as long as they release the same information publicly shortly after... so they're not actually breaking any laws. So much of the way the US government has operated is based on some shared standard of moral sense that the current administration lacks completely.

> it's not even technically insider trading as long as they release the same information publicly shortly after... so they're not actually breaking any laws

No, that’s a canonical example of insider trading: acting on pre-release inside information before it’s made public; it doesn’t matter if it’s days, hours, or even minutes before it goes public.

People have been convicted for executing trades when they saw or handled earnings reports in-person hours before they’re released[1].

[1] https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/employee-securities-fil...

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Post by pjc50 »

DougN7 wrote: post #21
TrackerFF wrote: post #17

Why would anyone want to pay that much for something, unless it gives them some edge. I don't know if it is still a thing, but in the world of penny stocks and crypto there used to be subscription pump and dump channels, where influencers would charge $x / month, and coordinate pumps. "Signal" channels, as they were named. This can't be too different. If not even more straight forward insider stuff. Either that, or i…

I’m sure you could make a ton of money on oil if you had a 30 minute heads up about whether Trump was going to bomb Iran or not on any given day.

Aren't all the Iran announcements/bombings on weekends while the peace deals are announced before the markets open again? Or is that too much of a meme?
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