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Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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> By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS reportedly uses less than 250 MB of RAM That's also bloated, couldn't they find a better comparison to illustrate the egregious waste?

The most lightweight solution I can think of is:

   curl wttr.in

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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"Windows users are fundamentally willing to put up with more bullshit than MacOS or Linux users." I read this circa 2010 and it stuck with me ever since. Also, have felt this way over the years, when I see Windows users work.

It's called a "monopoly."

As always, Captain Obvious is quick to respond.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Back in my days, I had to remove the mouse driver from autoexec so that microprose grand pirx had 600kb of ram to start

Had to get a ride to drive floppies with corrected config.sys and autoexec.bat files around to friends. Things weren’t actually worse.

Personally, I have reverted back to sneakernet in a lot of what I do.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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> Back in my day Back in my day systems used to be a lot simpler too. These “back in my mind” comparisons show a clear lack of understanding of the subject matter. 1996 apps are not the same as 2026 apps. Expectations are different. Design languages are different. Even the UX is entirely different. 1GB is clearly overkill, no question. But ~100MB to ~300MB is perfectly reasonable and you know it.

99% of apps have the same or less functionality today as they did in 2001, but are significantly slower and worse.

Functionality isn't everything. A human teller has the (more or less) same functionality as online banking, but I do love me some online banking.

I also like the weather icons being 4K and having some smooth anmiations.

Not to say that it's gone worse (it has IMHO) but comparing 25 years ago to know doesn't help much. Times were different back then. That's like comparing 1900 travel to today.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Super interesting; it's been exactly the opposite in my experience. MacOS/iOS users put up with whatever Apple is telling them they should love - Liquid Glass, right? App Store restrictions, right? Lousy AI, right? - whether it's true or not. Linux users are willing to put up with any amount of work - i.e. bullshit - to make their installations work just to get a UX that's almost as good as Windows from 20 years ago.…

I mean, if the only things you can name are Liquid Glass, App Store and not-so-intelligent AI then it seems like Apple users are actually doing quite well? It's impossible for every idea to be a hit. Liquid Glass was a miss and they backtracked on some changes and fixed some issues that people were vocal about.

Apple's Software Quality Crisis (eliseomartelli.it)

1196 points by ajdude on March 3, 2025 | 1213 comments

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43243075

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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1. install ublock origin on Firefox. not even being annoying, edge is removing manifest v2 very soon, breaking proper ad blocks just like chrome

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This is a narrative that MS, Google etc want you to believe. They gutted it for ads. That's what's happening. There are workarounds now, that's what the existing ad block options are. They are heavily kneecapped.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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> By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS reportedly uses less than 250 MB of RAM That's also bloated, couldn't they find a better comparison to illustrate the egregious waste?

The article now says for me "By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS uses roughly five times less memory under similar conditions."... which is not exactly the same wording.

Edit: I see the "250MB" line later in the article. This article is itself bloated for repeating nearly the same thing again.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Easy workaround for this: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar to get a Start Menu icon for the page. 4. Delete the in-box Weather app icon. Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM, with no ads. It's not as nice as a native app, of course, but it's 1000% better than the useless ads and MSN feed that you can't…

> According to Windows Latest, the high memory consumption is due to the fact that Weather is not a fully native Windows application. Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework.

I wonder how this approach is having such an high reduction in memory usage compared to what’s stated in the article. I would assume both use the exact same WebView here.

The only explanation here that I can think of would be that the “Add an application” starts it under an existing Edge process which shares it’s memory instead of completely isolated.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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This article seems to be underestimating how much RAM a weather app should take. A well thought-out, native Weather app wouldn't take more than 100 mb of RAM.

You don't need anything more than https://wttr.in/ even with all the fancy terminal graphics.

Why would I like to know the weather in some other city?
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