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Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

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Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

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Post by perpetuallunch »

kyriakos wrote: post #160
perpetuallunch wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So all of these free (or paid apps? I don’t know, I don’t use any) that offer access to pirated content… They’re all above board? Not doing anything nefarious? That’s obviously not an argument anyone would intentionally make.

They are making money out of this. Subscription is like a month's Netflix for a year's access to everything. Multiple "providers" offering this which means there is money to be made.

So their business model is to profit off pirated content, and that’s why you trust them?

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#162

Post by kyriakos »

perpetuallunch wrote: post #161
kyriakos wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are making money out of this. Subscription is like a month's Netflix for a year's access to everything. Multiple "providers" offering this which means there is money to be made.

So their business model is to profit off pirated content, and that’s why you trust them ?

I don't think I said anything about trust. I was talking about content delivery. All the things you mentioned before are avoided using this method of delivery.

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#163

Post by perpetuallunch »

kyriakos wrote: post #162
perpetuallunch wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So their business model is to profit off pirated content, and that’s why you trust them ?

I don't think I said anything about trust. I was talking about content delivery. All the things you mentioned before are avoided using this method of delivery.

So you’ve audited the code of these apps, apps published by active criminals, and confirmed in a via reproducible build that none of these apps are a vector for VPN access, nor try to take advantage of vulnerabilities in any of the other software installed on that system.

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#164

Post by kyriakos »

perpetuallunch wrote: post #163
kyriakos wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I said anything about trust. I was talking about content delivery. All the things you mentioned before are avoided using this method of delivery.

So you’ve audited the code of these apps, apps published by active criminals, and confirmed in a via reproducible build that none of these apps are a vector for VPN access, nor try to take advantage of vulnerabilities in any of the other software installed on that system.

I think you are either pretending that you don't understand or can't understand what I'm saying.

At which point did I mention apps?

Anyway this discussion is over.

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#165

Post by Timwi »

antonvs wrote: post #100
matheusmoreira wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody is ever going to convince me that pirating is actually easier than finding the thing I want to watch and putting it on my credit card. That's just because you're fine with consuming the low quality slop they stream out. Doesn't mean people who care more than you do are engaging in "mental gymnastics". We don't want the same things. I want the best version of everything. The highest quality version. The uncen…

> I want the best version of everything. The highest quality version. The uncensored version. The uncompressed version. The lossless version. The DRM-free version. The best version. Basically the same greed that every billionaire has, just with negligible economic impact.

Appreciation of the arts getting compared with greed of billionaires ..... How the times have changed.

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#166

Post by antonvs »

inigyou wrote: post #143
antonvs wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want the best version of everything. The highest quality version. The uncensored version. The uncompressed version. The lossless version. The DRM-free version. The best version. Basically the same greed that every billionaire has, just with negligible economic impact.

If billionaires are allowed to be extremely greedy then why aren't hundredaires allowed to be extremely greedy?

Sure, as long as they don’t have any moral concerns about society’s support for billionaires.

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#167

Post by antonvs »

Timwi wrote: post #165
antonvs wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want the best version of everything. The highest quality version. The uncensored version. The uncompressed version. The lossless version. The DRM-free version. The best version. Basically the same greed that every billionaire has, just with negligible economic impact.

Appreciation of the arts getting compared with greed of billionaires ..... How the times have changed.

“Appreciation of the arts” = “stealing someone’s creative work”.

Nothing has changed, people are just trash.

Re: Twenty-five years ago it was cryptography, today it's model weights

#168

Post by account42 »

antonvs wrote: post #100
matheusmoreira wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody is ever going to convince me that pirating is actually easier than finding the thing I want to watch and putting it on my credit card. That's just because you're fine with consuming the low quality slop they stream out. Doesn't mean people who care more than you do are engaging in "mental gymnastics". We don't want the same things. I want the best version of everything. The highest quality version. The uncen…

> I want the best version of everything. The highest quality version. The uncensored version. The uncompressed version. The lossless version. The DRM-free version. The best version. Basically the same greed that every billionaire has, just with negligible economic impact.

If all billionaires wanted are copies of data which can be created at no cost there would be no problem with them.
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