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7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by zuzululu »

dopa42365 wrote: post #57
asdaqopqkq wrote: post #38

arent they trying to make silicon fabs there?

Not like earthquakes are unheard of in Taiwan or South Korea either. Buildings are going to be more expensive (base isolation and an extra commie blocks worth of reinforced concrete), but given how expensive fab equipment is, that might not even matter all that much.

South Korea? Almost nil. It's not known to be a seismological region.

Taiwan, Japan have far more exposure to a long history of earthquakes, tsunamis.

For Taiwan, there is another existential threat man made.

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by numpad0 »

lstodd wrote: post #102
bombcar wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A hundred years from now people are going to be absolutely flabbergasted how we just piped gas everywhere all the time. Electricity allows for so many more automatic safeguards.

Electrical is inadequate power delivery-wise and requires completely different cookware to the point that it's a different cuisine. For example to replicate a gas burner you have to have above 15KW continious power. Good luck wiring that into your apartment, or feeding this with local solar. Or even finding an induction stovetop that won't melt its insides in a year or two at a measly 5KW.

Most Japanese household stoves top out at 5kW per burner. IH stoves are limited to 3kW per burner for 5.8kW combined by radio regulations. 15kW is a figure for combined output or for restaurant burners.

It's apparently not great but not substantially worse either, and it's not like 5kW output of gas stoves are plenty for serious cooking in the first place so it's okay.

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by zuzululu »

Hope everybody is staying safe in Japan but this will not be the last earthquake, there are many experts pointing this as the beginning with even bigger magnitude coming up.

I'd strongly caution against a Japan trip right now.

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by Georgelemental »

w7 wrote: post #159
reducesuffering wrote: post #158

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If anything that should warrant more attention...

The few socialist papers that I've read make the claim that there is nothing to pay attention to, and that the event is "American Propaganda" to try and make Venezuela look weak. The government attempts to control and suppress videos of the event. Following the event involves trying to see past the state's narrative and take in anything that trickles through. Combine this with the fact that it's likely far easier for…

Venezuela supposedly is a "friendly nation" now though, ever since the palace coup

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by sgc »

reducesuffering wrote: post #145

Why does this earthquake, of similar magnitude, get so much more attention compared to the recent Venezuelan earthquake last month that was 100x more devastating? There was no commentary on HN about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Venezuela_earthquakes

I live in an earthquake prone area and thought Japan was cutting edge in earthquake protection. Beyond the obvious concern for other human beings, I am interested in why there was so much damage from what I would have thought was still a relatively manageable size earthquake for them. I am here trying to learn a lesson that I would not expect to learn from Venezuelan infrastructure and earthquake response.

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by perching_aix »

lstodd wrote: post #157
perching_aix wrote: post #121

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> For example to replicate a gas burner you have to have above 15KW continious power. Where are you getting this from? 15K BTU sure, but 15K watts? Do you mean the entire stove?

If I turn my old gorenje all out on four burners it'll output the likes of maybe 30kW give or take. The largest burner is I think about 15KW on full throttle and that does only acceptable wok or very smoky steak on cast iron ribbed pan. For a couple of years I had nothing but a 3.7kW inductions while I lived elsewhere. Two of them melted and warped from the heat to the point of breaking the top glass and forget about…

OK, Gorenje, gas stove, wok use: https://international.gorenje.com/products/cooking-and-bakin...

The largest burner has an output of 3.5 kW (12K BTU).

Did a general pass before sending my previous comment anyhow, found much the same across the board. What you say reliably checks out with the unit corrected to BTU on the gas side, but not otherwise.

Are you sure you're not mixing BTU and watts?

> If all you cook is ramen or oatmeal, induction is fine, yes.

No, I cook full on meals. Stews, soups, what have you. Power never even remotely came up as a concern. Quite the contrary in fact.

I indeed never used a wok or cooked any steaks though, and probably never will either, so I can't say much about that stuff.

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by kalleboo »

kalleboo wrote: post #71
ktallett wrote: post #68

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There is a collapsed roof of a shopping centre as well in Kumamoto. The Aeon Mall.

The mall had a (most likely gas) explosion, and there are many dead being found inside https://newsdig.tbs.co.jp/articles/-/2833412?display=1

This article has confirmation that there was a report of a gas leak, and if you scroll down there is a dashcam video of the explosion https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/na-k10015188721000

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by idiotsecant »

rawgabbit wrote: post #147
toast0 wrote: post #140

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Where I live in the US (near Seattle), there's no piped natural gas, most detatched houses have a 250-500 gallon propane tank. Seattle has piped gas, but my county never had the density to justify the expense to install distribution piping and now its disfavored. My house has a second tank for a backup generator. We use the main tank for our stove/range, water heater, clothes dryer, and a decorative fireplace that's…

Wow that's interesting. If you have to do it all over again, would you still get the heatpump?

seattle is basically the ideal location for a heatpump.

Re: 7.1 Earthquake in Japan

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Post by idiotsecant »

sandworm101 wrote: post #109
bombcar wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A hundred years from now people are going to be absolutely flabbergasted how we just piped gas everywhere all the time. Electricity allows for so many more automatic safeguards.

Replicating the power density of a gas pipe requires far more than 110v ac. The future might wonder why we accepted the danger of 5,000v power lines running through food courts just to avoid using gas burners.

haha who is cooking on 5kv?
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