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Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Why? Banning abuse is fine, and disliking Cryptocurrency projects at a moral level is fine, but running a coffee hosting service and putting your moral judgements on projects like this just seems childish and unserious. I'm also apparently banned from reading the article, despite having no previous usage of Codeberg or any history with the project, so I can't even see their reasoning.

In the words of the person who announced the ban, when moderating a discussion on it 8 months prior:[1] > > Dear Codeberg, please push out and ban these political fighters. > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are…

How do you know what the politics will be next?

They banned vibe coded projects too… goodness knows how they think they can determine / enforce that.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

#162

Why? Banning abuse is fine, and disliking Cryptocurrency projects at a moral level is fine, but running a coffee hosting service and putting your moral judgements on projects like this just seems childish and unserious. I'm also apparently banned from reading the article, despite having no previous usage of Codeberg or any history with the project, so I can't even see their reasoning.

GitHub is the worst place to host your code. Except for all of the other places.

Yeah. Looks like it's either GitHub or self-hosted from now on. At least GitHub has a Sponsors thing. Not that I'm getting much out of it.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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This attitude is toxic and will drive off other projects that aren’t associated with crypto. Once you have to factor in political risk with your source hosting, other alternatives become more appealing. At this point any project that’s even vaguely controversial ought to be looking at fully decentralized solutions like Radicle.

It's easy: don't be a scammer.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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I allowed myself to believe that the public conversation had moved past the "free speech means that no one is allowed to control what others post on platforms they run". The obvious cases of it routinely get replies with the obvious counterarguments, so I thought maybe everyone had gotten the idea. Apparently not.

You can disagree with the decision here. That's a reasonable debate. Pretending it's about "pluralism" or "tyranny" is pathetic.

Think about it for half a second: do you think every platform that accepts user content is required to accept all not-explicitly-illegal content? No? Then the only question is where to set the line. Codeberg is making their own choices. If you don't like those choices, I don't even have to tell you to start your own platform, because there's already tons of competition.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

#165
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I just fundamentally disagree that hosting sites should be agnostic to content. Should they host malware? Anything related to CSAM? Clearly it is reasonable for them to exercise some editorial control, and this is not a crazy use of that power.

What about emulators? E2EE? P2P software? Software that gets used to leak state secrets? VPNs? Once you open the door, it’s going to be really difficult to resist political pressure in other areas. The mob is easily swayed against new targets.

Yes? Every hosting provider should be considering what they want to host. Of course it's fine for providers to take some sort of speech maximalism stance if they want to, but it is also reasonable not to.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

#167

Wow. I have never worked on any cryptocurrency projects and never intend to, but I will certainly be staying very far away from Codeberg because of this. There are some levels of censorship that make sense for a code forge - “you can’t do crimes on our servers”, “you can’t host malware on our servers”, etc. But inflicting a subjective moral judgement on an entire category of software sends the message that this isn’t…

I strongly disagree: I think this is a perfectly acceptable action. No project is entitled to host their project there, nor is any project compelled to do so, so I don't see why there is any harm in having this instance of Forgejo moderate itself as it sees fit. They have no moral requirement to support all kinds of software. If you disagree with their beliefs, you are free to host your own instance or find a code fo…

> No project is entitled to host their project there

So tiresome. This is going to lead to an even more fragmented free and open source ecosystem. GitHub is the default choice because it has huge network effects. Codeberg just opted out of those.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

#168
I'm... unsure how to feel. On one hand I have the utmost sympathy for the idea of pushing people away from disposable software and towards collaboration. On the other hand this will definitely devolve into name calling and vigilantism. On the third hand, Github is already drowning in slop. It takes up huuuuge amounts of resources and delivers a tiiiiny amount of value to the platform per line of slop code

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

#169
post #165

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What about emulators? E2EE? P2P software? Software that gets used to leak state secrets? VPNs? Once you open the door, it’s going to be really difficult to resist political pressure in other areas. The mob is easily swayed against new targets.

Yes? Every hosting provider should be considering what they want to host. Of course it's fine for providers to take some sort of speech maximalism stance if they want to , but it is also reasonable not to.

So you think Codeberg should not host projects in the categories I listed?

Or if you think they should, should they also provide guarantees to projects that the rules will not be suddenly changed, disrupting the project and community?

If not, and you’re a developer, why would you want to host there?

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

#170
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I'm not personally a fan of this move or the vibe coding rule. That being said, I genuinely wonder how many people complaining about the rule are personally affected. Seems weird to me to complain about a service setting its own rules when you don't engage with it or contribute to it.

They don't have to be affected to be worried. It's how it was done and possibilities of further bans that is worrisome. I have small open source projects that I won't move to Codeberg ever now because I don't want to waste any mental energy pondering if I might get banned in the future. For example I have a stock trading backtracking strategy test tool. Will they ban anything related to fintech in the future because…

What exactly about "how it was done" is alarming to you?
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