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Post by lesostep »

infinite_spin wrote: post #127
lesostep wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, there is a guy in a coffee shop that routinely threatens you, and it's still is your go to place? Damn, just how good is that coffee? (if that's real, and pulling phone out really is dangerous, can't you just ask the employee to film next time it happens for 10 bucks?)

The coffee isn't why I go there, it's where my friends meet up, and I go to the gym next door. He's also threatened employees, one quit. I'm not sure why you're making jokes, but since you are it seems like I should double down and insist that I have the right to film such encounters.. especially when my account of these events isn't taken seriously.

I'm half joking because the situation is quite bizarre and I never encountered anything like that.

Where I live usually it takes a few eyewitnesses testifying for a police to take someone into custody for a few hours and give them a talk (like general "don't do it again or next time we will detain you for a 15 days" talk). And after a few talks, they would generally really just detain someone (it's different from a criminal record)

Not to mention the owner could just ban a person thatch bad for business. Or just install a camera, since police demands a proof.

From your retelling it seems like not only owner doesn't give a damn about it being bad for business, it's actually isn't even bad for business! You still go there, your friends still go there (do they know that you fear for your life filming the evidence of abuse for police to take action? Surely a friend would help you film this. Or at least be sympathetic enough not to go to a place where you fear for your life?).

I'm not saying anything about your testimony, but from your words alone it really seems like you life on a different plane of reality from everyone around you.

To hear you tell it, you can genuinely be killed or assaulted but everyone (including your friends??) is okay with that. And – most confusingly – you yourself is also okay with that?

I can't just wrap my head around that. If I feared for my life and health, I would just not go there, and fuck my friends for suggesting to risk it. Are you suicidal? Is that a missing piece of puzzle? Because even when I try to believe you, those pieces do not fit together.

Re: Guerrilla London bus ads mock Kylie Jenner’s Meta glasses campaign

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Post by infinite_spin »

lesostep wrote: post #161
infinite_spin wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The coffee isn't why I go there, it's where my friends meet up, and I go to the gym next door. He's also threatened employees, one quit. I'm not sure why you're making jokes, but since you are it seems like I should double down and insist that I have the right to film such encounters.. especially when my account of these events isn't taken seriously.

I'm half joking because the situation is quite bizarre and I never encountered anything like that. Where I live usually it takes a few eyewitnesses testifying for a police to take someone into custody for a few hours and give them a talk (like general "don't do it again or next time we will detain you for a 15 days" talk). And after a few talks, they would generally really just detain someone (it's different from a c…

> I'm half joking because the situation is quite bizarre and I never encountered anything like that.

half joking is still joking, and this is not a "quite bizarre" situation, in fact it's rather common for people to make threats. It's "quite bizarre" to me that you don't realize this.

> Not to mention the owner could just ban a person thatch bad for business. Or just install a camera, since police demands a proof.

I think I mentioned, the owners did in fact trespass this person. Aside from that, the cameras don't have audio.

I think I need to end this conversation, because it's going off track into my personal life more than I'd like, and I don't think your investigative (or joking) tone is appropriate. My example stands, from my perspective, as a valid reason to want this technology.

Re: Guerrilla London bus ads mock Kylie Jenner’s Meta glasses campaign

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Post by gumby »

lesostep wrote: post #160
gumby wrote: post #151

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You already collect data on some of the ppl you meet (messages, contacts, LinkedIn connections etc). But the face recognition, memory of interactions etc should stay on device. That why I said I don’t want it to,take pictures I have access to.

I can't have a message or a LinkedIn connection without other person registering with messaging app or LinkedIn, willingly. When they setup LinkedIn or message me, they are fully aware of the fact that I will either access or receive that information. Not comparable. >> face recognition, memory of interactions etc should stay on device It can't be processed there, chip too small. And physics don't allow us to make ch…

The hand tracking will be via your watch or a Rivin or passively from a down pointing camera on the glasses. The Apple Watch’s primitive recognition of a few gestures isn’t bad

Re: Guerrilla London bus ads mock Kylie Jenner’s Meta glasses campaign

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Post by infinite_spin »

smokedetector1 wrote: post #159
infinite_spin wrote: post #157

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We need equal rights, ones that exist for everyone, i.e. constitutional rights. When we say some people have those rights more than others, we destroy equality under our laws, at the very root of our system. I think it muddies the water to call these "absolute" rules, they're clearly up for interpretation, but what shouldn't be up for interpretation is their applicability to all, in "absolute". If you're going to say…

Identical treatment of all people in all situations for all laws does not exist and should not exist. Children have different labor restrictions than adults. Police have different gun access than civilians. Businesses pay a different set of taxes than individuals. And allowing businesses to do camera surveillance when you enter their property is in no way the same as allowing everyone to videotape each other at all t…

> Identical treatment of all people in all situations for all laws does not exist and should not exist.

How did you arrive at this statement from "We need equal rights, ones that exist for everyone, i.e. constitutional rights"? Seems like you're making an appeal to extremes.

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Post by infinite_spin »

Nursie wrote: post #132
infinite_spin wrote: post #130

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I'm not a fan of rules that aren't concrete, especially when the opposition tends to muddy the water and use ad hominems to justify their opinions. Lacking a clear set of rules has never led us to a safer community.

> I'm not a fan of rules that aren't concrete Then you are going to have a hard time in a society filled with other humans, or living with a legal system that takes human complexity and grey areas into account in so many different ways. Outside of a parser or a maths class, rules are rarely that concrete. (Reading your other comments, I am sorry that your experiences have lead you to be so scared going about your day…

> Then you are going to have a hard time in a society filled with other humans, or living with a legal system that takes human complexity and grey areas into account in so many different ways.

Yes, and from my perspective that's corruption of society. We must at least make an effort to eliminate gray areas, otherwise we're failing our duty as citizens of that society.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Re: Guerrilla London bus ads mock Kylie Jenner’s Meta glasses campaign

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Post by Nursie »

infinite_spin wrote: post #165
Nursie wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not a fan of rules that aren't concrete Then you are going to have a hard time in a society filled with other humans, or living with a legal system that takes human complexity and grey areas into account in so many different ways. Outside of a parser or a maths class, rules are rarely that concrete. (Reading your other comments, I am sorry that your experiences have lead you to be so scared going about your day…

> Then you are going to have a hard time in a society filled with other humans, or living with a legal system that takes human complexity and grey areas into account in so many different ways. Yes, and from my perspective that's corruption of society. We must at least make an effort to eliminate gray areas, otherwise we're failing our duty as citizens of that society. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil…

I disagree, fundamentally.

Humans are walking grey areas. For any set of rules to be truly fair it must be flexible and be applied with compassion and understanding.

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