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Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Canadian here. I have a WhatsApp account and the app on my phone with zero contacts in it. Nobody here uses it. But every time I leave the country I need it for some service or business or who knows what. It seems like the rest of the world all agreed to use this app and Canada (and I think the US) just said “naw thanks…” and have no common app or method.

What are people using in Canada? SMS?

Costco membership meetups

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

Why not group emails? Email is a push technology. And the receiver has to manage their inbox for the sender’s enthusiasm. 2-3 weekly emails A web page could update in real time. It would be more work for the sender. And less work for everyone else.

That doesn't track. As a recipient, checking one location for updates (my inbox) is easier than polling N websites for updates. If I had to recall all the various websites for everything I need updates for, I'd quickly miss updates.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

The other big problem is, group notifications went from 100% success rate, to nearly 0%. I bought a budget model sainsmart/genmitsu cnc thing to goof around with, as a hobby/assist other hobbies, and 98% of their user community is on Facebook, but Facebook doesn't show me their posts most of the time, because sainsmart isn't paying to promote their group. This group would be a wealth of information every time I opened the fb app, but unless I explicitly remember to go visit their "community" by searching for it, I'll never see those posts. There's an enormous Cyclekart (vintage-ish go karts with proportionally correct wheels) community on fb as well but unless that's the ONLY thing you use their app for, they won't show you that stuff.

TL;DR FB is worthless for social networks, because if they showed you the groups you were there to check on, nobody would pay to promote their own things.

Once an avid user, I go 1-2 weeks at a time with the app uninstalled now unless there's something specific I need to check on.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

The other big problem is, group notifications went from 100% success rate, to nearly 0%. I bought a budget model sainsmart/genmitsu cnc thing to goof around with, as a hobby/assist other hobbies, and 98% of their user community is on Facebook, but Facebook doesn't show me their posts most of the time, because sainsmart isn't paying to promote their group. This group would be a wealth of information every time I opene…

I have Facebook and follow about a dozen of journalist accounts. Almost daily I'm asked "should we show you more of this" for their posts - darnit that's THE reason I'm here, why asking me continuously??? And what's the alternative, bimbos doing little content creator dances?

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Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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I think 2 things happened to social networks / media:

1) companies had a desire to grow everyone's networks. Early numbers said, people more connected have more engagement, and the larger a user's graph is, the better we can advertise to that user.

But at some point it also changes what you want to post, or if you want to post at all. Do I want my mom to see this joke? That party photo? What about that guy I met on exchange 10 years ago?

I have 1000 connections on Facebook, and all _their_ connections can be exposed to my post. It might as well be public.

2) Professionals are better at posting than amateurs. It turns out that we rather watch a funny update from a comedian we don't know, than an update from a friend trying to be funny. Social networks are not social anymore. They are mostly TV, but instead of channel surfing, you are doom-scrolling videos from professional creators, not updates from friends.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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I think 2 things happened to social networks / media: 1) companies had a desire to grow everyone's networks. Early numbers said, people more connected have more engagement, and the larger a user's graph is, the better we can advertise to that user. But at some point it also changes what you want to post, or if you want to post at all. Do I want my mom to see this joke? That party photo? What about that guy I met on e…

I remember Google+ had groups called "circles" which could be used to choose with whom you share a post; it is a very common sense feature which I haven't seen since. And your reason 1 is a good explanation why.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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I think 2 things happened to social networks / media: 1) companies had a desire to grow everyone's networks. Early numbers said, people more connected have more engagement, and the larger a user's graph is, the better we can advertise to that user. But at some point it also changes what you want to post, or if you want to post at all. Do I want my mom to see this joke? That party photo? What about that guy I met on e…

I remember Google+ had groups called "circles" which could be used to choose with whom you share a post; it is a very common sense feature which I haven't seen since. And your reason 1 is a good explanation why.

WhatsApp has this “circles” features implemented so well people don’t even think about it.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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I think 2 things happened to social networks / media: 1) companies had a desire to grow everyone's networks. Early numbers said, people more connected have more engagement, and the larger a user's graph is, the better we can advertise to that user. But at some point it also changes what you want to post, or if you want to post at all. Do I want my mom to see this joke? That party photo? What about that guy I met on e…

I remember Google+ had groups called "circles" which could be used to choose with whom you share a post; it is a very common sense feature which I haven't seen since. And your reason 1 is a good explanation why.

Exactly - amazing it never caught on

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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The bar is just so high, everywhere. I want to fire off a quick quip and have a conversation. Reddit is probably the only place where this works any more, but you have to be prompted by the right thread and early. So people throw up their hands and go, "why bother?"

Reddit is so negative though. There was an event I went to, and according to Reddit it was a shit show, but checking my Facebook, everyone that went had a wonderful time!

With Reddit it's sort of a status signaling thing.

Like saying - I am too good for this thing.

Your disapproval of something is supposed to show your standards are high, and you got some elite taste.

BTW you can see some variations of that here also.

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