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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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I think they’d try to get something through Congress to regulate the industry in a rules-based way. The current admin flies by the seat of their pants and at least creates the perception of political decision making.

> the perception of political decision making The what? More like "the whims of an eighty year old in cognitive decline and those wishing to curry or keep his favor" - quite an expansive definition of "political decision making".

> More like "the whims of an eighty year old in cognitive decline..."

The previous administration was totally not exactly what's described here...

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Don't start to rely on it . The US might remove access next month in a fit of pique. The Chinese models look increasingly more reliable and safer.

This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice. Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.

> I know which one I'd rather send tokens to.

Do you have access to Mythos? If not the choice has already been made for you.

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Don't start to rely on it . The US might remove access next month in a fit of pique. The Chinese models look increasingly more reliable and safer.

This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice. Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.

I don't buy that anymore. The day America threatened to invade Canada and Denmark was the day America showed they cannot be trusted any more.

It's not like China can be trusted either, but China isn't planning any direct invasions to the west. Taiwan, perhaps, but they're playing a long-term tactical game rather than a "invade the country we don't like this week" game. They might get some info on you, but the data brokers in the west will sell a lot more details about you, pre-categorized and all.

If you're afraid of industrial espionage, Chinese companies may be a risk, but in that case you shouldn't be uploading your secrets to an AI company in the first place.

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Next time someone tells you this is the party of free market and small government, I guess you just laugh now?

If you think that anthropic wasn't pushing aggressive regulatory capture legislation in the Biden administration, why do you think they hired a bunch of people from it?

What Anthropic was pushing for under Biden has very little to do with the values Republicans have been espousing (and failing to live up to) for decades. That's kind of the point op was making. Republicans run on small government but do not deliver it. Democrats do not run on small government. Democrat Presidents campaign on and push for things like the ACA, they don't have fun quips like, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help.”

A clear regulatory framework to operate within allows businesses to operate within it rather than get surprised by the King's whims upending their business on every few Fridays. If you expect regulation will eventually happen, pushing for it to happen on terms you're able to comply with rather than as haphazard surprises is pretty sensible.

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Just because a policy is legal doesn't mean it cannot be disastrous.

"disastrous" seems hyperbolic to me. what disaster do you foresee?

Favored companies get access to frontier models, which gives them a competitive advantage, starving out smaller companies. Any smaller companies that do manage to innovate ultimately get acquired by the favored companies since they are worth more with access to frontier models than without (which is effectively a discount on the purchase price of those companies).

I'm not saying that's going to happen, but it is one possible scenario that, over time, would be disastrous for innovation and freedom.

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Is there any scenario where it's not catastrophic for for the frontier labs?

They just got their market cut to a fraction. Investing in new tech is now very risky because even if things work out you might not be able to sell anything.

There were already serious doubts about ROI for the frontier labs. If they can only sell to 100 or so entities it's over business wise.

What's the endgame here?

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If this is the way things are now, isn't that going to crash the AI stocks? All those trillions dumped into it probably weren't with the expectation that it could only be sold to a handful of select US agencies and corporations.

They are all private aren't they? There's nothing to crash since the valuations were all made up funny raise numbers anyway. A donation to the right person likely removes the restrictions

They all get serious investments from public companies and a lot of public companies rely on those private labs buying stuff from them.
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