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Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

#161

Goddamit, like losing the ability for coding without any Internet wasn't enough, now I have to forget how to code without Claude? ps. if you say you still capable of developing software without the Internet, you're lying. Perhaps, to your own self.

Utter nonsense. If you can't figure out how to run your dev stack on your own computer, you're not worthy of calling yourself a software engineer.

"Running your dev stack" is not the same as "developing [usable] software".

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

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I suppose it's a good time to encourage people trying out pi[1] with any cheap model from the openrouter rankings page[1]. [1] https://pi.dev/ [2] https://openrouter.ai/rankings

Is pi better than opencode?

They are different models. OpenCode is trying to be a claude code/codex replacement, where-as pi is something you build yourself, kind of trying to be an emacs type thing compared to vs-code. As in emacs it is more common to write your own extensions, where as in vs-code most people just download them.

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not like that. This is literally they saying they are letting their LLM run wild(ish) and seeing the status.claude.com we can see the result. This is a case where the outcome is the direct result of the engineering practices like the ones they describe. PS: Yes I use Claude, Coded, Amp and Cursor agents every day so I am not saying here LLMs are not valuable. LE: They did not made claims that "AI is good" the…

But it is like that. You have zero insight into the infrastructure issue. And the person quoted above is a Claude Code developer. So because this guy uses Claude generously to build Claude Code, then Anthropic's API scaling issues must necessarily be caused by his agent loops even though scaling issues plague every tech company, no less often pre-AI. The issue is that it's a thought-terminating cliche, and it would b…

Engineering practices or best practices are much more than writing code.

So not sure what we are debating here: I see first hand companies jumping full on using LLM for _everything_ for the last 6 months (of course Anthropic longer) and without guardrails and good engineering practices the number of incidents, downtime is increasing.

Look at status.claude.com - Anthropic could at any point come out and say all those are due to third party providers.

I am also not saying here Anthropic is worse than other scaleups. But they do something different: they come in front of us and tell us they have better engineering practices.

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

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Getting consistent "API Error: 500 Internal server error" messages in Claude Code right now (10:20 AM EST)

Their completion endpoint[*] is returning 503 with a `fault filter abort` response

[*] https://claude.ai/api/organizations//chat_conversations//completion

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

#165

I don’t prompt Claude anymore. I have loops running that prompt Claude and figuring out what to do. My job is to write loops. — Boris Cherny, head of Claude Code Reliability is a direct reflection of the quality of the underlying infrastructural code. If even Anthropic, the company with the world's best agentic vibecoders, has horribly unreliable infrastructure, it really says something about the quality of the world…

Meh, this is the "must be the veganism" fallacy: if someone knows you're vegan, then any ailment you might have, no matter how ubiquitous in the population, must be somehow due to your vegan diet and no more details are required. Except now it's the "AI did it" fallacy where if you know a company uses AI, even infra scaling issues must be due to AI, and if you had just used less or no AI, you would have been spared e…

Ahem...

"Vegans and vegetarians may have higher stroke risk" - https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49579820

"Vegans had a 43% higher risk of fractures overall compared to nonvegetarians, as well as higher risks of hip, leg, and vertebral fractures." - https://sniglobal.org/plant-based-diets-and-fracture-risk/

"The Impact of a Vegan Diet on Many Aspects of Health: The Overlooked Side of Veganism" - https://www.cureus.com/articles/138315-the-impact-of-a-vegan...

"..people who followed a vegan diet had noticeably low levels of iodine in their bodies, an element that is essential for growth, bones, and brain function. In addition, vegans had lower bone health scores..." - https://www.bfr.bund.de/en/press-release/vegan-vegetarian-be...

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

#166

Goddamit, like losing the ability for coding without any Internet wasn't enough, now I have to forget how to code without Claude? ps. if you say you still capable of developing software without the Internet, you're lying. Perhaps, to your own self.

I'm perfectly capable of programming without internet or AI but I would admit it would take longer and in the modern world we live in it's often not economical to do so. After programming for over 20 years you start to get in that flow automatically at least you used to do so. I don't know if people starting out to program will be able to, but most experienced developers will feel this way I assume.

> I'm perfectly capable of programming without internet

Me too, but let's be honest, I'm not talking about "Hello world!" experiments, I'm talking about developing usable software. I'm pretty sure, you won't be patching a Linux kernel driver on your own machine without googling stuff.

I've learned to code years before the Internet, but we've had it for so long, I'm honestly not sure anymore if I'm truly capable of building [real] stuff while offline. And I can't just ignore it, there's a feeling now, that with AI advancements, I may soon no longer be able to code efficiently without any AI.

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's what the comment means. We are back to the baseline. The availability of our tools isn't adding anything in the long term because the productivity increase we get from the tooling is negated by the time we're back to doing it the old fashioned way due to downtime, so there is no claimed productivity increase espoused by the pontificators of the tooling.

This is an argument for returning to living in caves and hunting mammoths for fear that our modern civilization becomes unavailable for a day or two.

I'm down

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

#168
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly is a developer in a scenario where no one can code?

As long as I'm alive (and not senile) there will always be at least one developer who can code I'm not using AI coding tools yet, and even if they force me at gunpoint to use them at work no one can force me to in my spare time I'm not too worried about the case where no one can code anymore because that will be after I'm dead

I guess that means there will be at least two of us.

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any indication these errors are related to Anthropic-written code as opposed to operational issues from the fastest-growing infra buildout ever? Layer-wise, the app is pretty far removed from request routing to GPU pools.

This is almost certainly a software issue, though. Even if it's due to scaling, they still built a system that failed catastrophically rather than degrading gracefully.

Right. If this were truly a pure scaling issue, I’d expect the interface would offer an archive.is-esque “Claude is at capacity; your prompt is #XXX/YYY in the queue; estimated time remaining: ZZZ seconds”

Instead, the whole system just shits the bed, catastrophically.

Re: Elevated error rate across multiple models

#170
post #118

Imagine a future where Anthropic holds your company hostage because no one can code properly anymore by hand and demands paying 200% higher price for the usage. What can your company do?

Won't it eventually be $1,000 or $5,000 a month? $5k a month would still be 97% less than many developers cost.

How many developers are making 2 million a year?

400k isn’t crazy for the FANG set but it’s still a subset of the developer market and hundreds of thousands of those jobs have been cut in the last few years as they all collectively work to lower SWE pay.

60k a year it needs to be a full irreplaceable part of the infrastructure for I think. There are very few kinds of software that meet that bar right now (certain design tools etc that have no replacement). 12k/year is in the expensive but reasonable for the right tooling category (Matlab etc.).

I don’t know what the future holds. I know the big AI companies are banking on being able to charge for a replacement SWE that works 24/7. Still not convinced these are it yet, as useful as they can be under the right circumstances.

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