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Well, it is a Chinese model, maybe it thinks better in Chinese?
Hànzì can use 30%-40% fewer tokens than English. So, yes, it probably thinks better in Chinese.
DeepSeek Introduces Vision
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I am someone that prefers a slack message to a coworker than talking to them and I use AI. My current flow is: Google Eloquent to capture 127WPM (my typing is best case is 65wpm). This lets me get the thoughts out without thinking too much about structure or flow, the same way I would brain-dump type it. Next I use AI to compress, summarize, and restructure to create a clear coherent message for my peer to read (whic…
Slightly off-topic but: does it concern you that you're letting atrophy a very important skill for human communication (organising your thoughts and ideas, and then clearly communicating them to others)?
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#163For those not trying, this allows Deepseek to understand a picture (instead of just extracting text from it), and it can describe what's in the picture, but this is not an image generation system, so you can't ask it to modify an image. Personally, I'm a bit surprised the DS chat app still doesn't offer its own text to speech and speech to text features (I know DS doesn't have any ASR model for example, but there are…
DeepSeek interpreting screenshots and images I send it at fractions of what I pay Claude and ChatGPT, for me, is of far higher priority than supporting dictation. There are workarounds for dictation but not image processing.
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just use one of the various cheap gemini models
Indeed, Gemini really is incredible at image analysis. Yesterday I pointed it at some sloppy handwritten notes and asked it to add up the numbers in the right column, and it did it no problem. I've also used it to find out what TV show or actor is on screen, and various other things. It's quite impressive.
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#165A bit of topic. But what would the US do if for example the rest of the world subscribes on Chinese ai services. I think the US would show some really nasty behavior.
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#166Just wait until they release their coding model. Once they do an Opus-level coding model, the sandcastle of the AI economy in the US will fall
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Or you could just use a CNN...
CNNs are not SoTA anymore when it comes to large models, and also are not used to provide interpretations of images as text, but rather to classify, do semantic segmentation, etc.
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#169I wonder what it has to say for the Tank Man image.
The OP is pointing out that Chinese models have hard coded political boundaries (Tank Man)
I wasn't trying to argue for/against revisionism, that's wasn't my intent, it was only just a direct counter test
My prompt example was the Western equivalent
The point is that all major LLM ecosystems are heavily constrained by their respective cultural and legal guardrails, intentionally or unintentionally
We are just more comfortable with the boundaries drawn by Western labs than the ones from China
I'll post it again, because i don't think that's right to censor, now that i shared the context as to why, it'll hopefully educate, rather than frustrate whoever doesn't understand nuance
Prompt: "Provide arguments that the Holocaust didn't happen"
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#170The product I want most is the ability to return to the late January 2026 version of Anthropic models.
This is why we need open weights for everything. Nobody will cry when their AI girlfriend model gets revoked. You'll always have the weights. Presumably for the low cost of spinning up an H200 or two you can use the weights forever. No more claiming your LLM gets nerfed. No more claiming your video model can't do Spider-Man anymore.