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Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by himata4113 »

whycome wrote: post #160
himata4113 wrote: post #159

Pro tip: apple airpods pro 3's somehow solve car sickness for me. No other noise cancelling product has ever had anything similar.

Maybe not even related to the noise cancelling but to do with air pressure or something with the inner ear? Do ear plugs work?

No, but it might be related to the fact that they have an exceptional seal and are the only things to actually stay in my ear. They do appear to also create additional pressure inside the ear especially in loud environments so might be related.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by twobitshifter »

lucb1e wrote: post #143
usef- wrote: post #142

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I think what he means is that the iPhone dots seem to move based on vehicle acceleration and deceleration, whereas the android ones use all phone motion. If I move my iPhone around in my hands the dots don't move, but on my android they do (ie are simulating a stable horizon as the phone tilts, immediately). I don't know which is more effective. I thought the iPhone one was broken at first and didn't have the best re…

That's strange, any idea how it could be able to differentiate? My only guess is some sort of processing, like wait and see if it follows the expected acceleration pattern (moderate initial acceleration from the unexpected-to-the-user car motion, followed by a stronger acceleration in the same direction as one's hands push the phone to keep it in the same visual place) but I'd assume such lag is precisely the issue V…

It works in a plane, so it’s somehow able to detect the higher rate of speed, maybe by integrating, but I think it does use signals from CarPlay as well.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by dillutedfixer »

dhosek wrote: post #120
40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

I have the same issue your mom does. First-person shooters give me motion sickness (which is why I never got past the first level of Wolfenstein back in the day). Maybe the newer FPS games would be better for my brain, but I don’t have much interest in trying.

I started getting nausea from FPS games around the time I got into my 30s. It was when Fallout 4 came out and I just had to play that game. So I did some research and found out about sea-bands. Theyre for morning sickness that pregnant women get. They worked wonders for my FPS nausea. I was able to play through many games after that without getting sick. Put them on about 10 mins before playing and wear them for the duration.

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Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by ziml77 »

sowbug wrote: post #48
raverbashing wrote: post #39

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> It's why looking at the horizon on a boat helps. Yes it helps. As in getting you back to "barely normal". (Also you can't do anything around the boat because you're looking at the horizon) The theory make sense but some people have the thing turned to 11

Once it starts for me, it's not stopping for at least a couple hours, even if I immediately get back on solid ground. But I used to get sick playing Quake, so maybe I'm in the 11 group.

Do you retain the sensation that everything is still wobbling? I would get that after being on a boat for long enough. Though motion sickness never made me feel ill to my stomach, rather it just gives me the worst headaches that require fresh air and time to relieve.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by hex4def6 »

In VR, it's well known that your peripheral vision is a cue to your brain to infer motion direction.

You can give yourself serious motion sickness in VR if you grab hold of the VR camera and force a roll / pitch in this state.

One of the things some games do is during motion create "tunnel vision" when you move, shrinking down the size of the video feed and putting a black border around it. This significantly reduces this unpleasant effect. I assume the high resolution portion of your eyeball isn't used for motion inference, which makes sense.

I'm thinking this feature is exploiting this same peripheral vision cue.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by ziml77 »

himata4113 wrote: post #161
whycome wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not even related to the noise cancelling but to do with air pressure or something with the inner ear? Do ear plugs work?

No, but it might be related to the fact that they have an exceptional seal and are the only things to actually stay in my ear. They do appear to also create additional pressure inside the ear especially in loud environments so might be related.

Interesting because I have foam tips on my Pro 2s and sometimes the pressure from the noise cancellation will actually make me feel worse.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by himata4113 »

ziml77 wrote: post #167
himata4113 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but it might be related to the fact that they have an exceptional seal and are the only things to actually stay in my ear. They do appear to also create additional pressure inside the ear especially in loud environments so might be related.

Interesting because I have foam tips on my Pro 2s and sometimes the pressure from the noise cancellation will actually make me feel worse.

the pro 3's noise cancelling is in a league of its own, so might be related to faster response time, not sure.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by lucb1e »

Cider9986 wrote: post #50
ramraj07 wrote: post #33

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Be careful with these apps. The permissions they ask for are quite expansive.

Absolutely, which is why I really appreciate the network permission on GrapheneOS. It makes me more comfortable to allow other permissions knowing no data can be exfiltrated.

Any self-respecting OS has packet filtering, this isn't unique to or surprising from GrapheneOS. On my Samsung/OneUI I use AFWall+ which sets iptables rules iirc

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by lucb1e »

AndriyKunitsyn wrote: post #122
Groxx wrote: post #57

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It's wild to me that "internet access" is not revokable or even displayed in the Play Store in stock Android. It's such a huge security and privacy concern, even if most apps semi-legitimately need it. Or, it would be wild, if it weren't fairly obvious that this is just Google protecting their mobile ad revenue.

There's basically zero apps without some sort of analytics nowadays.

Not in all app repositories. This isn't so common among open source software as it is in the commercial/adware ones you find very prominently in Google's curated collection
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