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MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Good, coding harnesses should be open source and LLMs should be treated as commodities. Minimize switching costs for consumers, and let people understand how they're interacting with the context and the LLM outputs. The industry has been moving the wrong direction with Claude Code staying closed (despite multiple times leaking the source code!) and the open source Gemini CLI being deprecated in favor of closed source…

Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

> That’s a charity, not a business model.

  Joel Spolsky in 2002 identified a major pattern in technology business & economics: The pattern of "commoditizing your complement", an alternative to vertical integration, where companies seek to secure a choke point or quasi-monopoly in products composed of many necessary & sufficient layers by dominating one layer while fostering so much competition in another layer above or below its layer that no competing monopolist can emerge, prices are driven down to marginal costs elsewhere in the stack, total price drops & increases demand, and the majority of the consumer surplus of the final product can be diverted to the quasi-monopolist.

  No matter how valuable the original may be and how much one could charge for it, it can be more valuable to make it free if it increases profits elsewhere.

  This pattern explains many otherwise odd or apparently self-sabotaging ventures by large tech companies into apparently irrelevant fields, such as the high rate of releasing open-source contributions by many Internet companies or the intrusion of advertising companies into smartphone manufacturing & web browser development & statistical software & fiber-optic networks & municipal WiFi & radio spectrum auctions & DNS: they are pre-emptive attempts to commodify another company elsewhere in the stack, or defenses against it being done to them.
https://gwern.net/complement

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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It's very confusing. They have tokens for their API and credits for their "token plan".

Even worse... they use both terms on the same page in dashboard. """ Credits 4,100,000,000 Credits Total Token Consumption """

Ooooo... I now realize the trick. It's a mental play... give 1000x of "credits" but charge in same old tokens.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

#163
post #150

Good, coding harnesses should be open source and LLMs should be treated as commodities. Minimize switching costs for consumers, and let people understand how they're interacting with the context and the LLM outputs. The industry has been moving the wrong direction with Claude Code staying closed (despite multiple times leaking the source code!) and the open source Gemini CLI being deprecated in favor of closed source…

Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

“A business that does things that customers actually like is a charity” lmao

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

#164

Isn't Unlimited Context pretty difficult to promise? What exactly do they mean, could I just have two agents locked into a TTRPG back and forth forever?

Do you plan to ask them some master plan to live forever?

You can run the two agents in GAN like loop.. each trying to better the other. Give them a common task like design a better alternative to transformer model that uses max O(nlogn) memory, and the result comes closest to existing n^n implementations.

Good idea actually.. why haven't I tried this before.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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> promote the free-for-a-limited-time use of their new coding AI service Not sure which "free" service you're referring to, but MiMo v2.5 Pro is plenty capable & (after its recent 70%+ price drop) one of the most affordable options in its class ( DeepSeek v4 Pro , MiniMax M3 , & Qwen 3.7 Plus ). I read somewhere that Labs are incentivized to implement custom harnesses because each model has its strengths, quirks, & b…

I'm guessing the greatest reason behind each provider creating and agent harness is that (a) there is not a clear winner still and (b) it is harder to switch models with a competitor, as you also have to switch harness

But you really don't have to switch. MiMo Code has the same provider support as OpenCode.

Even Claude Code you can use with any provider that exposes an anthropic API endpoint, which they all do.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

#166
post #77

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No, you are just experiencing the best of Apple. How dare you download non notarized binaries on your own computer? Do you have a license for that? Terminal > sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine > Drag and drop the app into terminal > enter and enter your password

"damaged" by not paying 99 bucks.

"damaged", even after paying 99$ : https://github.com/electron/notarize/issues/205#issuecomment...

See last 20'ish comments.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

#168
post #98

Pretty neat that you can just install it and start using it (at a Sonnet 4.6-level model) without needing to sign in or pay. Typically, Chinese websites are a big pain to log in or sign up because they require a +86 phone number due to legal reasons. Being able to use it without having to make an account is amazing for friction reduction. I could probably even just install it onto new machines to help with set up. I…

> at a Sonnet 4.6-level model MiMo v2.5.0-Pro is honestly the first Chinese model that I've tried where I really though why should I use Claude Sonnet when I can get the same results for a fraction of the cost. There was always something off about Chinese models that made it apparent that it couldn't fully compete with GPT, Claude, Gemini, etc. but this was the first model where I was like, this feels like Sonnet. I…

GLM 5.1 is stronger than Sonnet 4.6 in my opinion, but while they have a coding plan that is a good value MiMo beats it on price. I haven't used MiMo much yet but it felt pretty similar.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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post #112

Redditors are unhappy about their coding plan: https://www.reddit.com/r/opencodeCLI/comments/1t37dz3/xiaomi... I guess the way to use their models is through another provider, like https://opencode.ai/go

My comment on same: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48493358

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Cold storage warehouses, industrial greenhouses, indoor ag, are all similar but who protests those. I think there's something social going on.

industrial greenhouses make noise? I live near Forest Hill, LA, which is where tons of nurseries set up, dozens and dozens. they all have greenhouses. No noise. I bet their electrical connections don't raise prices of local residents, either. So is it the water? I don't know where i sit on the water argument. Equinix near LAX had chillers, i guess, but really it's just massive HVAC. chillers don't work everywhere (my…

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