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Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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As always... no AI-hypester ever talks about Amdahls law ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law ).

There was one good analysis from that viewpoint recently: https://x.com/addyosmani/status/2059844244907696186

Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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This really hit home for me: In some cases, workers are also being asked to automate the parts of their jobs they enjoy most, Hinds said on the podcast, pointing to customer-service employees who enjoy building relationships but are increasingly expected to supervise AI agents instead. "That's what gives you joy and meaning at work," she said. "That is very dangerous." What's a 20% productivity gain if I constantly f…

When I was given a semi-ultimatum "use AI or get fired" kind of thing for writing code I had a brief bout of depression/sadness. Whereas my friend doesn't care/says "I get paid to not work". I have gotten past it, now I'm just like, I'll do what I need to do to get paid since unfortunately I'm in a lot of debt so I need this job. I learned to code in 2013 so I like typing the code myself but now it seems like a waste…

If I'm forced to do more work I don't enjoy, I expect to be compensated better. So now you have the cost of the AI and salary increase to deal with.

Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do the engineers not derive enjoyment in their jobs from making the customer experience better? This does track with what I've experience in my career, where we've gone from everything being to better the user experience to tech companies sort of trying to out-do each other in their technical solutions while the software continuously gets worse and more antagonistic.

This is the danger of isolating engineering from customers, or even internal customer-interfacing employees. If all they see is code, they will get satisfaction from tidy code, not user happiness. One good thing about AI is it elevates product engineers because they more directly bridge the customer-product-code divide.

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Guys you are privileged to do a job that you love. The privilege is even higher when the things you love aren’t even needed anymore. If this is the case you are on the verge of losing your job. Key word is verge. Not yet, but the trendlines point to it as a likely possibility.

Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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This really hit home for me: In some cases, workers are also being asked to automate the parts of their jobs they enjoy most, Hinds said on the podcast, pointing to customer-service employees who enjoy building relationships but are increasingly expected to supervise AI agents instead. "That's what gives you joy and meaning at work," she said. "That is very dangerous." What's a 20% productivity gain if I constantly f…

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> Is everyone entitled to a high quality of life

Yes.

Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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This really hit home for me: In some cases, workers are also being asked to automate the parts of their jobs they enjoy most, Hinds said on the podcast, pointing to customer-service employees who enjoy building relationships but are increasingly expected to supervise AI agents instead. "That's what gives you joy and meaning at work," she said. "That is very dangerous." What's a 20% productivity gain if I constantly f…

This is an important point. My light-bulb moment was when I talked to a product owner in a previous job, and I expressed surprise around an expensive planned change, because it didn't seem that valuable to our customers. He said, "Almost half of what we do is not that valuable to our customers, but it's valuable to him, and her, and him", pointing through the conference-room window at my fellow programmers, "and that…

Are you all hiring?

Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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i've seen a number of articles claiming things like "devs self report they'er +x% more productive with AI, but actually they're -y% LESS efficient!". and i think that this is explanation for why. as a boss (or researcher) i'm going to measure productivity based on amount of output per hour that i'm paying you; as a workers, i'm going to measure productivity based on amount of output relative to the amount of effort i…

> so what may be happening is that bosses see that output is at 80% (productivity down!) If an initiative produces only 80% of the previous results and you’re paying large token bills on top of the same wages, the AI is going to get cut off. > i've seen a number of articles claiming things like "devs self report they'er +x% more productive with AI, but actually they're -y% LESS efficient!". Are you thinking of the ol…

I think the old report you're referencing is this [1] from July 2025, but I can't find a new report. This [2] links to a new dataset at the bottom (that maybe shows improvements?) but it seems like they chose not to write it up because of perceived flaws in their study. Is there a more relevant report I'm missing?

[1]: https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-o...

[2]: https://metr.org/blog/2026-02-24-uplift-update/#wider-adopti...

Re: Workers are spending over 6 hours a week botsitting AI, fueling job frustration

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i've seen a number of articles claiming things like "devs self report they'er +x% more productive with AI, but actually they're -y% LESS efficient!". and i think that this is explanation for why. as a boss (or researcher) i'm going to measure productivity based on amount of output per hour that i'm paying you; as a workers, i'm going to measure productivity based on amount of output relative to the amount of effort i…

Do you have any studies in the last 6 months showing performance decreases?

March 2026:

https://www.faros.ai/blog/ai-acceleration-whiplash-takeaways

Faros would tell you shops are shipping 16% more PRs with heavy AI use.

https://unessays.substack.com/p/talk-is-cheap

I think that's wrong because it doesn't adequately account for the quality and rework their data show.

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