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Albania Is Not for Sale: Kushner's $4B Resort Triggers'Flamingo Revolution'

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I simply don’t understand how American voters are fine with being robbed blind. Many countries have far more corrupt administrations than the current U.S. one, but even in the most degenerate ones none of them are as open about it. And it’s not just a political thing. Consider how the Chinese owned Smithfield’s is polluting lakes and land all over the Midwest with their highly intensive (and incredibly cruel) pig far…

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Don't forget that resorts et al typically belong to international capital, and the tourists rarely leave the premises. So what does the local economy get out of it? A few maids salary to clean up the tourist's shit?

> Don't forget that resorts et al typically belong to international capital. What does the local economy get out of it? Same goes for any natural resource. Oil, precious metals, water, etc. Globalization feeds this behavior, but that’s a conversation people don’t usually want to have

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I simply don’t understand how American voters are fine with being robbed blind. Many countries have far more corrupt administrations than the current U.S. one, but even in the most degenerate ones none of them are as open about it. And it’s not just a political thing. Consider how the Chinese owned Smithfield’s is polluting lakes and land all over the Midwest with their highly intensive (and incredibly cruel) pig far…

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Are you suggesting that immigrants are to blame for electing the current administration that's robbing them blind?

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> The ordinary people who did the electrical, plumbing, security, etc. know where you are, and no level of security will protect you from an angry mob with nothing to lose. Governments around the world already keep many locations/facilities secret and hidden from the public. They will simply arrest you, or worse, just kill you. What’s your solution to that?

Have you thought this through fully? In that case who'se supposed to be doing the arresting and killing? -- more ordinary people. Look at what happened to Ceaușescu for example. He went from being confident in his rule to dead 24 hours later.

Yes, ordinary people have famously never killed tens of millions of civilians/undesirables at the orders of the government. Great point.

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Yes. The whole bought media, party in-power, the opposition are against the protests and are trying to downplay them. Source: I live there. It's very easy to tell if you do.

I'll take your word for it! But I reflexively add "... at this price" to such statements.

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#167

I simply don’t understand how American voters are fine with being robbed blind. Many countries have far more corrupt administrations than the current U.S. one, but even in the most degenerate ones none of them are as open about it. And it’s not just a political thing. Consider how the Chinese owned Smithfield’s is polluting lakes and land all over the Midwest with their highly intensive (and incredibly cruel) pig far…

Most voters aren't fine with it.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

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#168

I simply don’t understand how American voters are fine with being robbed blind. Many countries have far more corrupt administrations than the current U.S. one, but even in the most degenerate ones none of them are as open about it. And it’s not just a political thing. Consider how the Chinese owned Smithfield’s is polluting lakes and land all over the Midwest with their highly intensive (and incredibly cruel) pig far…

Americans aren’t “fine with it.” Trump’s approval ratings are very low.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-approval-stays...

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Are you suggesting that immigrants are to blame for electing the current administration that's robbing them blind?

Most people in my social circles that do not feel the US is in an existential crisis are first generation immigrants.

They see the checks and balances that we used to have, and assumed those structures would constrain the administration to mostly tow the line.

On the one hand, it’s true they came from places with weaker institutions. On the other hand, they’re used to leaders that face real threats of coup, asset seizure, assassination, etc. The current US administration has publicly stated it is permanently above the law, and it has also dismantled most checks and balances.

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Most resorts secure favorable tax deals directly from the central governments before they invest, accompanied by public announcements in the media about success of government in attracting international investments. So no tax the locals. During the construction phase there is some legitimate economy uplift (similar to datacenters). But after that nothing.

> Most resorts secure favorable tax deals directly from the central governments before they invest, accompanied by public announcements in the media about success of government in attracting international investments. is this just pure old corruption. govt not working for ppl stuff.

This happens, publicly, in the US, all the time. Megacorps like Amazon regularly pit cities and states against each other for what you're calling plain old corruption.
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