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Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by ceejayoz »

bojan wrote: post #33
ptaffs wrote: post #25

At the time "polls" predicted a Remain win. Between the vote and the eventual Brexit along with protests, there was a government petition for a redo and a Remain optimism that a re-do would flip the result. For this poll to me meaningful, I would expect to see declining support for Reform. But the opposite is happening. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revoke-artic...

> At the time "polls" predicted a Remain win. This is a common trope but is simply not true. The polls were really tight[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United...

Your link largely agrees; the "Polls of polls" shows a general consensus on a tight Remain win, and the chart shows the convergence being very late in the game.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

munksbeer wrote: post #149
rayiner wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This comment is nonsense, and it is the usual propaganda based on an ideological bent. I'm sorry but I think you and your family have retained the class/caste based system of you original homeland and it is just manifesting in a weird way. I am willing to bet your mother never encountered anything of the sort. Most of the old very rough areas in London are now gentrified (people complain about it). You can pretty muc…

This user is well known for exactly that.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by gambiting »

elzbardico wrote: post #158
gambiting wrote: post #108

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...how can you wish for such a thing?

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Well, I hope they pay you well to come online and write this nonsense. If you're writing this out of your own free will without compensation then that's just sad.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by gambiting »

elzbardico wrote: post #157
gambiting wrote: post #71

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The only stupid thing about sanctions on Russia is that they aren't harsh enough.

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>>the hitler bootlicker.

Well, at least Ukrainians aren't publishing state sponsored books about Komrade Hitler like Russia does - the state sponsored revisionism about Hitler happening in Russia right now is insane, I was going to say you forgot that you fought him, but then again, WW2 started by Russia making a pact with Hitler, so maybe actually nothing was forgotten.

>>history like their midget bandera hero

The funny thing is only completely brainwashed Russians seem to care about Bandera at this point, if FSB is providing you with talking points online then they really need to update their guidance. I just find it interesting what is it about HN that makes you guys come out of the woods - surely FSB isn't paying that much to post on random tech forums online? Or is it just paid per hour?

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by henearkr »

nephihaha wrote: post #153
henearkr wrote: post #62

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That's not what most recent archaeological discoveries tell. Quite distinct groups of humans mixed in ancient Japan, as different and distant at that time as the groups that are mixed in modern times in Peru or India. Some groups were related to Autronesians, others to Yakuts, yet other groups to Hans, etc. If I remember correctly, at least three distinct groups are proven to have cohabited and arrived at different t…

I am not talking about prehistory here. The culture of the Japanese "Home Islands" in the Middle Ages consisted of two main groups: Ainu/Edo and the Japonic peoples who spoke related dialects. The first group was treated abysmally and dwindled. There were differences based on environment, e.g. the people in Tohuku had to deal with the cold and those in the south had subtropical climates and more outside interaction.…

We're talking about separate things, yeah.

The Ainu/mainland distinction is a feature arrived much later than the mixing I am referring to.

My point is that Japan ethnicity is the product of a mixing just as the one occurring nowadays in France, Britain or Norway, between several very different people.

So that, if such mixing produces great results (do we agree that modern day Japan is that?), why not welcome today's mixings for the sake of the great nations of the future?

But I don't think we'll reach a common understanding on this topic, so we can just agree to disagree.

And have a good one.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by WithinReason »

Arodex wrote: post #134
delichon wrote: post #93

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRkMGTgX0AEFhVp.png This is for Denmark. https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-immigr...

I am sure that Denmark, a country that amongst other things imposed forced sterilisation against the Inuit population up until the 1970s, and abused people with disabilities [0], is offering black-skinned people equal opportunities and not pigeon-holing them into unemployment and social exclusion... [0] https://www.dw.com/en/denmark-apologizes-for-abuse-of-people...

There is a similar analysis from the Netherlands

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by jfengel »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #70
bonzini wrote: post #17

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Speaking of incompetent politicians, let me remind you of the Liz Truss lettuce...

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There's a play called The Audience, which is a series of meetings between Queen Elizabeth and her prime ministers. It's a fascinating lens through which to view British history.

It runs up through Tony Blair. I'd love to see a final update:

Truss: Hi, I'm Liz Truss

Elizabeth: Urkh! (dies)

Curtain

(The Audience is the basis of the TV show The Crown. The audience parts of The Crown are the most interesting. As the show goes on, it's less about British life and more about royal scandals, ho hum. Gillian Anderson gives an amazing turn as Thatcher; it's too bad the rest of that season is so tedious.)

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

anigbrowl wrote: post #86
zuzululu wrote: post #18

None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

These questions aren't comparable. Japan had a crash modernization followed by a brief outburst of violent colonialism, which they thought was the style at the time but was actually in decline almost everywhere else. Britain had an empire that lasted hundreds of years, and whose greatest legacy is linguistic and temporal system dominance. Having spent centuries proclaiming itself to be the literal center of civilizat…

> which they thought was the style at the time but was actually in decline almost everywhere else.

I truly hate the historical revisionism of Westerners. Japan engaged in colonialism because it was an active victim of colonialism, and the only way to fight back was to stand on equal footing. Through the 1800s~1940s, Europe controlled nearly the entirety of Asia. China had been subject to countless treaties forced upon it. The Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, India were all colonies. 90% of Africa was under European control. 100% of both Americas was under European control. 100% of Australia and New Zealand was under European control. Europeans were literally aiming for world domination. The list of countries free from European colonialism could be counted on one hand: Japan (only because it successfully fought back), Korea (before it got annexed by Japan), Siam, Nepal, Iran pretty much covers it. Yet amazingly Europeans found and continue to find no shortage of pearl clutching over Japan daring to do the same thing they did, in a dog-eat-dog world where not doing so meant becoming another pawn.

To the extent colonialism declined, it was solely due to to the world wars wrecking Europe so utterly they could not maintain their overseas holdings, + the untouched US intervening in eg. Suez Crisis in order to assert itself as the global Western hegemon with no peers.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Post by asveikau »

zuzululu wrote: post #18

None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

Excuse me, are you holding up the British as some kind of pure, undisturbed ethnicity?

You mean the celts who were conquered by Romans who were conquered be Angles who were conquered by Normans? Who speak this bastard language we're using now, where most vocabulary is Latinate upon bones of Germanic?

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