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Robinhood now lets your AI agents trade stocks

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Re: Robinhood now lets your AI agents trade stocks

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I have access to a car and bottle of bourbon, but there are laws that restrict me from drinking and driving.

they don't restrict you, you can always drink and drive. you may or may not, depending on your luck, suffer the legal consequences of your actions.

tell that to the cops that’ll pull you over.

ignition interlock device market continues to grow, as some states are attempting to require them in all new cars.

Re: Robinhood now lets your AI agents trade stocks

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Fidelity makes you wait a short period of time after turning-on the “stock options” setting. They also give you documents about options and how to trade them and what to look for. They also ship that same information in a booklet in the mail to you. They make a best effort to inform you of the risks and benefits. I wouldn’t call randomly placing an options bet something you would want to bypass research on…and I fran…

And I don't think any of that documentation or warnings should be applied to covered calls.

Robinhood allows you to trade on the margin by default IIRC.

Also the only fear mongering I can imagine is if you were someone who thinks learning things sucks. Otherwise I’m not sure what fear mongering you’re talking about. I have never heard or read any advice to not trade options because they are dangerous. Just that you should understand what you are doing because there is risk involved.

Re: Robinhood now lets your AI agents trade stocks

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Right, AI agents famously never make any mistakes.

So does procedural code, the architecture supporting it and the humans writing it. I am capable of playing devil’s advocate as well Do you have an actual strongly held opinion or counterpoint on what I wrote? Time to market, covering bases, lower maintenance and things to keep track of all represent the utility

Have you actually put together trading strategies by having the agent drive? I've never trusted it that far and I use agents a lot at my job right now. The way I usually do it is, I break out pen and paper to do an analysis of what I want mathematically. I then have the agent build out some Python that lets me backtest and analyze my work. I read through the code (which is usually fairly compact since numpy/scipy and various finance libraries do most of the heavy lifting for me), make any changes as needed, then run my analysis. Then I run it in a production setting if I like it. But the actual strategy is something I come up with on pen-and-paper.

Re: Robinhood now lets your AI agents trade stocks

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I use the Interactive Brokers MCP pretty heavily. I don't do any cool automatic fun "trading", but instead I use it to have "pseudo-QQQ". I didn't like the relatively high fees for QQQ, and I realized that Invesco releases the weights for QQQ for free. I also think Tesla is too overvalued, and I want to avoid the SpaceX IPO. With the Interactive Brokers MCP, I just feed it the CSV of QQQ's weights, tell it to remove…

This is absolutely and unfathomably terrible to such a great degree that I think it reinforces OPs point. It seems like using an LLM has given you the confidence to make an incredibly ill-informed decision that will cost you dearly. Every single time you rebalance your portfolio, you will need to pay short-term capital gains taxes on any gains, as opposed to an ETF in which you simply pay for the gains when you sell…

> you will need to pay short-term capital gains taxes on any gains

Stating the obvious here, but only in a taxable account.

I rebalance frequently and on small divergences in the IRA, which has no trading fees and obviously no tax consequences.

In a taxable account I try to favor growth over dividends and rebalance very rarely.

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There is a beautiful irony in being condescending about AI simply imitating training data… by repeating a meme you saw on Twitter: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=772349875124360 (which I guess I will call your training data ;) )

Its a common phrase. Ive never used facebook.

You're helping their point.

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Maybe synergistic with tokenmaxxing. You should be burning more tokens, and you should also be making more trades.

The only way to win is to not play. https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Bogleheads are still playing.

Re: Robinhood now lets your AI agents trade stocks

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I don’t understand this constant fascination with having language models trade stocks. Language models are very useful tools but not aligned at all with generating alpha.

Alpha is ultimately the result of analysis, of better analysis than others. LLM's can actually be exceptionally good at research and pattern recognition, i.e. analysis. And while they aren't great at running numbers themselves, they can do exceptional work passing off Python scripts to an interpreter to generate the numerical results they need. I'm quite sure the Robinhood AI is going to be trash, i.e. just a gimmick…

I mean sure an LLM can indeed have useful ML functions BUT it is a fools errand to think an LLM at the retail level is generating any alpha. Help build a model sure. Whatever these weird mechanism of agents trading, no.

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Alpha is ultimately the result of analysis, of better analysis than others. LLM's can actually be exceptionally good at research and pattern recognition, i.e. analysis. And while they aren't great at running numbers themselves, they can do exceptional work passing off Python scripts to an interpreter to generate the numerical results they need. I'm quite sure the Robinhood AI is going to be trash, i.e. just a gimmick…

This is essentially what AlphaZero is doing: https://nof1.ai/

Yeah it looks like what uneducated retail traders would find interesting.
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