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Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by csb6 »

iamalizard wrote: post #58
lbreakjai wrote: post #29

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Why should anything be done? If people are willing to pay five times the face value for a ticket, then it signals that tickets are priced too low. Let the market price itself. Harry Styles is playing in my city, he's apparently very popular, but there's still plenty of tickets available for as low as 47€ for tomorrow.

I never understood the issue with scalping and reselling tickets for a higher price. At all. And I've read a bunch of opinions here and on other forums and articles. None make any sense to me. It's a good that's being resold for profit. Not an essential one like rare medicine during a pandemic. I think some artists want to appeal to the poorer people so pricing their tickets higher or letting the free market work out…

If you want view ticket pricing as a pure economics problem (it is not), consider that live shows are also a way to build up and expand a fanbase. If only a handful of rich people (or people who bought tickets the second they went on sale) are at your show, you are not expanding your audience. Since streaming has decimated most artists' income from record sales, it makes sense to try and build a large fanbase who will regularly come to shows as well as buy merchandise. Tours often have exclusive merchandise than fans will want to buy, so all the more reason to attract more people.

As a side note, this notion that a phenomenon being the result of market forces means it is fair and has no issues seems to be a blinkered view of the world. Surely enjoying high quality art should be possible for a broad section of society?

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by 4d4m »

HDBaseT wrote: post #153
babypuncher wrote: post #139

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There is so much good free software out there for playing music that I have a hard time believing PlexAmp is worth $750. They know it's not worth it either, they just want to push more users to the monthly subscription for that sweet ARR.

As a long time Plex member, on Lifetime (originally purchased for If you're paying $750 you might as well use Roon like the rest of the audiophile freaks. Jellyfin has a Music Server although a bit limited compared to Plexamp. Navidrome is a Music Server with similar functionalities. Symfonium is a Music Player which can connect to various Music Servers like Navidrome, Plexamp, or just files on the network.

Gonna echo this sentiment, its buy for life and a good license

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by b3ing »

dylan604 wrote: post #159
gonzalohm wrote: post #148

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How would you like to manage those things? I listen to a lot of music and I'm pretty happy with Spotify. When I want to discover new music, I pick an artist I like and start the artist radio. I always get good new recommendations

I gave up on Spotify after 3 months. I did not like how it just kept repeating the same songs. With a catalog as large as they supposedly have, it was not entertaining me hearing the same things so frequently. Way back when, I had a very impressive iTunes catalog of actual media files that I had locally. I spent hours curating my CD rips and even the recordings from vinyl. I added id3 tags and artwork. It was gloriou…

Pandora is still around, but their library is a lot smaller

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by poly2it »

How is this not just a "Spotify tax" on tickets? I don't use Spotify, and I don't want to, because it's obnoxious crippleware. Now Spotify will reserve tickets, forcing me to prove my loyalty to their platform for some reason, before attending a concert? This doesn't make any sense. And if Live Nation cares about selling to authentic people, why do they not just take the proplem into their own hands and go after the scrapers?

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Post by 8note »

trvz wrote: post #136
falkensmaize wrote: post #130

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Given that Plex just bumped their lifetime subscription price to $750, I can no longer recommend them. They are clearly more interested in becoming another streaming service, and are I think trying to push out their core users who probably make them very little money.

It’s worth 750, which is about ten years worth of yearly subscriptions. Plex is 16 years old and the Lindy effect applies.

is it?

vs a bit of ai slop to make my own music player?

the only things i care about is some essy enough to use upload process, basic serving, then that theres some smart enough local caching on whatever device im using

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by boredtofears »

gonzalohm wrote: post #148
browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

How would you like to manage those things? I listen to a lot of music and I'm pretty happy with Spotify. When I want to discover new music, I pick an artist I like and start the artist radio. I always get good new recommendations

Artist radios almost inevitably become a mix of songs I’ve listened to the most that have even the faintest crossover with the artist genre. It’s very, very frustrating and my biggest peeve about Spotify. I now ask an LLM for an artist radio playlist and copy it over to spotify, which is kind of a pain.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by afavour »

jdmichal wrote: post #157
afavour wrote: post #142

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Their site says $250? https://www.plex.tv/plans/

Your very same link also has a huge yellow banner at the top of the page stating: "The price of a Lifetime Plex Pass is increasing on July 1, 2026."

Goes to show how inoculated I am against banner ads I suppose.

Either way part of me feels like it’s for the best. One off payment for lifetime membership of an app that has continual development isn’t a great business model.

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Post by ramses0 »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #121
Loughla wrote: post #91

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Pandora still exists and is quite good.

I came back to Pandora recently and I think it has the best discovery out of any music platform. I don't pay extra to play what I want, I curate radio stations and it's been great. The only catch is you have to be diligent with your curation, because it starts to reach and while you may love song X from genre Y, the station is genre Z. If you're not careful every station will become a mix of everything.

My trick is to be liberal with downvotes and excruciatingly sparing with any thumbs up.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by lukan »

dylan604 wrote: post #159
gonzalohm wrote: post #148

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How would you like to manage those things? I listen to a lot of music and I'm pretty happy with Spotify. When I want to discover new music, I pick an artist I like and start the artist radio. I always get good new recommendations

I gave up on Spotify after 3 months. I did not like how it just kept repeating the same songs. With a catalog as large as they supposedly have, it was not entertaining me hearing the same things so frequently. Way back when, I had a very impressive iTunes catalog of actual media files that I had locally. I spent hours curating my CD rips and even the recordings from vinyl. I added id3 tags and artwork. It was gloriou…

"I'm close to getting back to looking for a better music app to source my large local library."

Well, I am close to finally build that better music app for my large local libary of music.

(I actually do already use my own written player since 15 years, but it was always just a quick hack and never the thing)

I also do use spotify for finding artists, but have the same complaints that they are just repeating. (Also I hate the spotify app)

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by gtm1260 »

johnpaulkiser wrote: post #45
gtm1260 wrote: post #25

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How does this not just bias who gets ticket to those with more time preference.

willingness to stand in line for a ticket probably correlates well with fandom

How does willingness to pay more money not correlate with fandom?
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