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Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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It's very confusing that they use the same name as the very well known PHP package manager, composer https://getcomposer.org/

I dont know what it is with products names these days. Antigravity, Antimatter, Composer, Clay, Ramp, Bolt, etc. You'd think the founders would Google for naming conflict before choosing a name.

I genuinely wonder if consulting LLMs for naming advice could be an explanation.

They certainly wouldn’t be great at coming up with new words for a product name.

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#162

Say what you want about Cursor but they don’t lack for ambition. Forking VS Code, going big on bleeding edge features like cloud agents, and now they’ve thrown down the gauntlet directly challenging frontier labs by training their own model (“much larger” than Kimi 2.5’s 1T parameters) from scratch. They’ve been highly successful so far. Raised $50B, $2B in revenue, forecast to end 2026 above $6B. But even at these h…

Them raising this much money doesn't mean they're successful, it only means they know how to fool the investors well. A project that is basically an extension to VSCode only adding a chat interface, isn't really worth this much money. Obviously, it's the users, but people think it's something genius and revolutionary, but no.

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Hahah wtf? They are training on colossus 2? Their own model? Dude what the hell happened to Musks Grok? How incapable are they that they give away training compute to Cursor like this? Weird that the genius Musk doesn't need his own compute, after all shouldn't Macrohard (no joke) already building the worlds software from scratch?

it seems like they were trying that last year, it didn't work, so he flipped out and fired everyone and now plan B is to buy Cursor and run a quick rename of "Composer 3" to "Grok 5"

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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Say what you want about Cursor but they don’t lack for ambition. Forking VS Code, going big on bleeding edge features like cloud agents, and now they’ve thrown down the gauntlet directly challenging frontier labs by training their own model (“much larger” than Kimi 2.5’s 1T parameters) from scratch. They’ve been highly successful so far. Raised $50B, $2B in revenue, forecast to end 2026 above $6B. But even at these h…

They have no choice but to train their own model to try and survive. They're paying API pricing for the top tier models but competing against subsidized subscriptions.

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

#165

If these benches from their site hold up (they likely wont) Wouldn't this compress ai revenue like 15x quickly If they really have a 4.7 opus high equivalent at 1/16 the cost wouldn't this significantly effect all the current capex and planing Maybe they are getting elon to cover cost

AI revenue has been going up while the cost per token has been rapidly falling. The Jevons paradox applies here. The cheaper software is, the more software is written. There is not a finite demand for software.

I, and I guess basically everyone here, don't have access to OAI or Anthropic books, and it's really difficult to disprove your statements but:

- AI revenue going up & cost/token are not related metrics, at least not in the way you are assuming - basically all players (except OAI for the moment) struggling with capacity and/or reducing-dismissing subscription based solutions in favour of pay-per-use. If token cost/token was falling, we would see quite the opposite.

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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Say what you want about Cursor but they don’t lack for ambition. Forking VS Code, going big on bleeding edge features like cloud agents, and now they’ve thrown down the gauntlet directly challenging frontier labs by training their own model (“much larger” than Kimi 2.5’s 1T parameters) from scratch. They’ve been highly successful so far. Raised $50B, $2B in revenue, forecast to end 2026 above $6B. But even at these h…

EDIT: As others have pointed out, the comment above contains hallucinations (Like the $50 billion number) and a lot of AI tells. The account doesn’t have a history of AI-like comments but the hallucinations and structure in this one are suspicious. If anything, don’t trust the numbers it cites because they’re made up.

Cursor is a team that I want to see succeed. They have stacked their company with very smart people and they’re going hard at a highly competitive market. We all win when there is more competition and more innovation.

My problem is that every few months I look at Cursor’s product offerings and maybe retry it, but it never feels like something I want to use. Part is personal preference, the other part is the fact that my combination of other tools and services just does a better job. Their biggest advantage felt like first-mover advantage when they came out early and captured market share, but at in person meetups I hear stories about companies switching away from Cursor or trying to convince their management to let them switch away. They need to come up with a compelling advantage fast, which is a hard thing to do against the other companies with their virtually unlimited budgets by comparison.

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Zed? I haven’t tried Cursor, so don’t know how they compare, but I like Zed a lot. Anyway, would love to see a comparison from someone who has used a recent version of each.

I've tried Zed and really didn't like it. I like VS Code with the Claude Plugin, and sometimes with the Codex Plugin

Tried it and it’s fine but the AI integration is not tight enough for me.

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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I kind of want to try it, to see if and how far they can take an open model and improve it but I really don’t miss the Cursor user experience. Constant UI changes, half-baked features, smaller and smaller limits, useless AI change attribution; I think I’ll wait for others to report if it’s any good.

Use their cli?

https://cursor.com/docs/cli/installation

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only because last time they tried to hide it lol

Yes and if I remember the drama correctly - Kimi's license or terms of use says that for commercial use cases (or was it user count?) - you must declare credit to Moonshot and Kimi.

This was misinformed Twitter and Reddit drama.

They had properly licensed it and were complying with the terms of the license.

Re: Cursor Introduces Composer 2.5

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lead time on models, and there's some tuning gotchas they probably already figured out with Kimi, so they weren't ready to just drop everything and switch. I'm sure they will switch models eventually.

I recommend reading the entire article Together with SpaceXAI, we're training a significantly larger model from scratch, using 10x more total compute. With Colossus 2's million H100-equivalents and our combined data and training techniques, we expect this to be a major leap in model capability.

I guess this will largely decide if xai is going to pay 60 or 10 billion, depending on the success of the new coding model.
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