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Reimagining the mouse pointer for the AI era
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people speak at about 150 wpm, but very few can type that fast. But reading and gesturing are fast, which is what TFA is about, combining reading and gesturing with speech.
You rarely need 150wpm when typing. If you try dictation, you’ll notice that half those words are error correction and checksum bits and just turn taking filler. I usually convey the same meaning with 80wpm typing. Makes it faster to read too Maybe I’m just slightly adhd – listening to people talk drives my crazy. Get to the point! Much easier if they type it out
> listening to people talk drives my crazy.
People have so many verbal tics and filler words too. Anthropic’s Dario says “you know” after every third word, for example.
Or they meander around unrelated/unimportant details.
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#164I can type pretty fast, so this seems like it would slow me down. Also, everyone in the office would get annoyed pretty quickly.
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#165My reaction to the first demo (recipe) is that it was slower than typing the same thing on your keyboard. The second demo seems to be a wash: there's no time saved in saying "move this" versus "move crab". And an app-specific contextual menu would probably be faster. The third demo doesn't seem to warrant the use of a pointer at all, since there is only one way to interpret the prompt. None of this means that this ap…
But, you have been using your mouse and keyboard for many years, so you know well how to use them quickly. I think that you shouldn't expect to be able to be quick with a new input type when you only tried it for a few minutes
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#166My first impression coming away from this is skepticism. Anything with voice controls for routine use is a pretty tough sell. Doing this when you're not completely alone would be annoying to everyone around you. Most of their examples seem like they could have been done with a right click drop down menu so they don't really need to "re-invent the mouse pointer". So is this thing talking to Google's servers all the ti…
>Anything with voice controls for routine use is a pretty tough sell. Doing this when you're not completely alone would be annoying to everyone around you. Reads like the argument against cell phones where don't have a cabinet around you...
I wouldn't sit in the office talking on my phone next to my colleagues, that would be really annoying.
I'd go and find a small meeting room or conference call booth in the office and take it there.
Essentially, a cabinet.
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#167My first impression coming away from this is skepticism. Anything with voice controls for routine use is a pretty tough sell. Doing this when you're not completely alone would be annoying to everyone around you. Most of their examples seem like they could have been done with a right click drop down menu so they don't really need to "re-invent the mouse pointer". So is this thing talking to Google's servers all the ti…
Yeah, I'd hate to use this in an open-plan office (which is like 99% of offices these days) and even using it alone at home would feel awkward. I don't really want to talk to the computer despite what 1950's sci-fi books led us to believe.
It's a cool idea for the future when we have reliable EEG headsets or Neuralink or whatever though.
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#168My first impression coming away from this is skepticism. Anything with voice controls for routine use is a pretty tough sell. Doing this when you're not completely alone would be annoying to everyone around you. Most of their examples seem like they could have been done with a right click drop down menu so they don't really need to "re-invent the mouse pointer". So is this thing talking to Google's servers all the ti…
>Anything with voice controls for routine use is a pretty tough sell. Doing this when you're not completely alone would be annoying to everyone around you. Reads like the argument against cell phones where don't have a cabinet around you...
The argument is against human to machine control. Not human to human communication.
In fact, when humans happen to order other humans, it's typically done in writing.
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#169you can really tell the people building these tools spend a lot of time alone. I work from a home office 90% of the time and I wouldn't want this to be my workflow. I don't want to talk to my computer, I want to listen to music while I work, and I want to not sound deranged and disturb everyone around me when I am working from a coffeeshop or the open-plan office or the airport or the train or whatever. and that's as…
Agreed. A lot of Google products feel anti-social (like Google glass). They are definitely missing a human touch. Perhaps a byproduct of elitism and leet code grind filtering of employees mixed with founder personality.
I can actually see more use-cases for Google Glass tbh - having a HUD would be useful when using Google Maps for example, like a fighter pilot.
And being able to take photos/videos with the glasses (like the Meta ones nowadays) is really useful with my kid because he often does funny or cute stuff and I don't have time to pull my phone out to take a video/photo of it. I guess it could be useful for video calls too so my parents can see him.
But I just don't see anyone sitting in an office, or even at home, talking to their computer. It's really only useful for hands-free settings like when you are driving, or in the kitchen etc.
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#170I guess Apple is taking notes and launching a version of that later in visionOS.