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The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

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Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

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I agree, but it's been said by all... make homebrew software for an old Nintendo console pick up cross stitching or weaving make an independent film with a friend; use stuff from your kitchen as props find a borderline functional instrument at your local thrift store write a 1 page short story in pen it's not enough anymore to merely criticize this bad time we're having

Or just make homebrew. It’s amazing how good just fermenting juice from the supermarket with a bit of added sugar can be. It teaches patience and the blip blop of an airlock is a terrifically calming way to mark the passage of time.

I can't wait to find out if I made pruno or jenkem

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#162

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I concur! Explore the big, bold world outside the internet. Or, on the internet, stop spending your valuable time on bottom-feeder content like medium articles, facebook, twitter/bluesky, rant blogs, news websites etc.

Do you have interesting urls to recommend?

Good question. No, unless we have similar interests and hobbies. Specialized topics and fields (I observe anecdotally) tend to be less vulnerable to the optimization this article laments!

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#163

I have a pet theory that much of what we're seeing culturally is that the 90s and early 2000s (at least in the US) was a window of time that offered a sense of safety and surplus. 9/11 was extremely culturally disruptive, but aside from that, for many in the US, it felt like there was "enough to go around". That environment breeds a lot of creativity, innovation, whimsy, and doing things for their own sake. But that…

If you feel that way then you have to question what it is that you’re doing that puts you in a place where you are made to feel that way. Many people (most that I know) don’t feel that way. It may be the online communities that you are in or the news you consume, and the great news about that is that is stuff that is not only optional; you choose to consume it. You can just stop consuming it.

You can feel how you feel and understand how and why people feel how they feel too.

Instead, reads like you're blaming the victim. Shoulda worked harder in school!

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

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How did they in the 1990s/2000s/2010s?

Well in the 90s and early 2000s you really could make money as a small local artist in a niche genre. Think of the people who could cut 500 white labels of their new UK Garage tune and reasonably expect to sell them from the back of their car and turn a decent profit on it. The ability to be a small time artist, musician, etc and live in the 90s depended on the combined effects of technology and local organisations.…

Can we actually separate distribution from sharing?

I notice that all the advertising examples you listed are about spending time and not money, I'm wondering if there's something there?

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

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Realizing that the average CS graduate can't expect to make 100k on a career of centering divs has been more disruptive to the the American psyche than 9/11.

It's not the end of the world though. Not everyone has to be a CS graduate. There's other professions out there.

Nobody said that everyone has to be a CS graduate.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#166

People just aren’t seeing it because they aren’t going to the fun places. Of course the major social platforms and search engines will never point the way to fun. Fun is made without any financial motivation. The fun places are out there aplenty. People just have to go out and find it because no algorithm or advertisement is going to point the way. I get tons of fun in all sorts of small and specialized ultra-nerdy c…

Okay, so where are they? Show us some.

Let's be honest here, how many of these "specialized ultra-nerdy communities" are closed off Discord servers?

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#168

I still enjoy the things that are not overtaken by big tech (although it isn't much). Anna's archive and streaming niche movies. I miss the old forums the most. The group mind on Reddit is just regression to the mean. The rest I tried to cut back as much as possible for my own mental health. I can't get of YouTube completly even though most of the time I hate myself after doom scrolling. Sometimes I still find genuin…

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Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

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How did they in the 1990s/2000s/2010s?

Flea markets. Lol but I went to a flea market the other day with $100 thinking that was going to go far — I managed to buy one jacket for $80. So… I dunno.

Well, you got authentic experience that most of us only get to see on Hallmark TV :)

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#170
This is pretty much true, but also, you're older now. The people the age you are now were saying things like this when you were having all that fun. You are in a different place now. Your life is not about coming home after school and goofing off. You have important things to do. Those bored, lonely, funny, obsessive, angry, horny, curious kids are still out there, finding their version of what we had. They always are.

The internet may have changed, but the human spirit hasn't.

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