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1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by bluGill »

BigTTYGothGF wrote: post #160
bluGill wrote: post #153

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That is brave. Unless you have 5 DWIs to prove how bad a driver you are, or something equally bad... Or maybe you have finally realized old age has destroyed your mind and so you no longer have a drivers license (though this is rare). Honestly I have no idea how I would objectively rate my driving. I know a few things that I do better than everyone else - but I have no idea what bad things I'm doing that I'm unaware…

I said "bottom 75%", not "bottom 7.5%".

Exactly, most everyone thinks they are better that 75%

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

goosejuice wrote: post #96
scottyah wrote: post #91

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Maybe the lmgtfy would be a good exercise for you. Ford's BlueCruise, GM's SuperCruise, Rivian's Autonomy+, and Mercedes-Benz’s Drive Pilot all cost money.

Indeed and none of those work outside of (select) highways. Lucid also has DreamDrive, but it's fairly poor from what I've seen. BYD's God's Eye is in the news, and it isn't looking good either. I'd love to see good competition in this space, but it seems Tesla has a healthy moat.

The moat will seem pretty shallow when Google starts licensing their technology.

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Post by goosejuice »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #162
goosejuice wrote: post #96

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Indeed and none of those work outside of (select) highways. Lucid also has DreamDrive, but it's fairly poor from what I've seen. BYD's God's Eye is in the news, and it isn't looking good either. I'd love to see good competition in this space, but it seems Tesla has a healthy moat.

The moat will seem pretty shallow when Google starts licensing their technology.

I'd love to see waymo adapted to a consumer vehicle, but I have high doubts that this will happen any time soon. I know Waymo has a partnership with Toyota but they don't even have a competitive EV.

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Post by tracker1 »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #155
tracker1 wrote: post #83

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Hoping the Slate makes it... for that matter, would be nice if the Scout does as well.

Ford is going to eat their lunch if they come in at 30K with their "skunkworks" EV

Until the dealers tack on another $30k in BS fees.

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Post by tracker1 »

pjc50 wrote: post #137
tracker1 wrote: post #82

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I'd love to see more of this as an option... Getting a modern electic car with a late 60's Camero styled shell would be a nice option IMO. Would need to take a few liberties with some dimensions in the designs as the originals won't 1:1 match up, but there's probably enough leeway to make such things work out.

The dimensional differences of modern cars are striking. You'd need to make a 6:5 larger scale model of the original car in many cases. Or worse, if you've ever seen a classic Mini next to a modern Mini. (yes, I will admit that a lot of that is for crash safety, but not all of it)

I get that... but to a large extent, you should be able to capture a lot of the style of classic designs without necessarily the specific dimensions. I think the modern Scout remake is a decent example of this... another would be the Challenger, which is not original dimensions at all, but absolutely can recognize the inspiration of the more modern incarnation.

With maybe 3-4 base boards, you could do many dozens of different frames and shells. It could be an interesting opportunity for one company to mfg and sell a lot of boards, where smaller coach builders can do the bodies... akin to luxury cars a bit over a century ago.

Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by Danox »

sottol wrote: post #27

I really like the look of the car, but from the title it sounds like a Mustang has been converted into an FSD Tesla ("teslafied" Mustang) - but Tesla suspension, Tesla interior... this smells like a Mustang body fitted onto a Tesla chassis ("mustangified" Tesla). I suspect that this might be more of a "Mustang body kit" on a Tesla chassis and not retrofitting the Tesla tech into a Mustang chassis + body. Still cool,…

So too bad handling cars made into one…

Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by loeg »

NoLinkToMe wrote: post #154
loeg wrote: post #24

> It’s likely the first non-Tesla vehicle to run FSD, and it achieves 258 Wh/mi — roughly matching the efficiency of an actual Model 3. This claim is implausible, right? The Mustang is unambiguously less aerodynamic than the Model 3; there's no way it is achieving similar efficiency, especially at highway speeds.

Not implausible he hit those numbers, electric car ranges depend on a lot of factors, and he likely had a very small and favorable sample to get him to 258 wh/mile. Some factors to consider: 1. Winter gets 20-25% less range 2. Poorly inflated tires get 3% less range 3. Driving at 60 mph requires 80% more energy per mile than driving at 20 mph So if you take it together, test drives around town with proper tires in a…

I mean, you're agreeing with what I'm saying. It's implausible to achieve those numbers in an apples to apples comparison. Obviously you can achieve incomparable numbers using different conditions.

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Post by mortos »

jerlam wrote: post #57
yieldcrv wrote: post #55

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that's what Waymo is doing, in their implementation of this idea the "waymo driver" is software intended to be licensed out to vehicles or vehicle chassis with applicable hardware so if you thought the waymo car rollout was fast and sudden, wait until companies no longer need their own training data, it'll be like a switch got flipped

Tesla has also offered their FSD to other companies, with no takers: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-fsd-licensin... However, Tesla hasn't achieved anywhere near the autonomy of Waymo, so that may be the main sticking point.

I believe Ford had plans or interest in Tesla FSD but backed out and is going with Waymo.

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Post by KaiserPro »

tass wrote: post #72
KaiserPro wrote: post #66

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> Retro-electric stuff makes so little sense since it's the worst of all worlds. old cars are bastards to drive. I have a softspot for a mark 2 VW golf. But its not fast, the steering is heavy and the brakes are utterly shite. However, if I had the time and money, I would totally electrify a golf. it would be zippy quiet and hilarious to drive, especially without any kind of traction control. However it would be fun.…

Vinyl, for whatever continuing reason, often does sound better than digital formats but only because it’s mastered with more care. It could be that it’s physically impossible to master vinyl for extreme loudness, but whatever the reason is you can absolutely pick up a vinyl copy of an album and find it sounds much better than the streamed or CD version.

as a former apprentice sound engineer, I just don't believe that.

If you play your media on a decent NS-10 like speaker with a fairly good amp, you'll have pretty much what the mastering engineered mastered on.

Even tape has a better dynamic range than vinyl. Its like lomo photography, it does one thing very well, but is terrible for anything else. Yes it might sound pleasing, but it sucks for classical, anything with dynamic range, or anything that needs "room presence" as in recorded in a good sounding venue. close harmonies? yeah nah. drums with lots of cymbals? good luck.

Look there is nothing wrong with vinyl, its like shooting on expired film, it evokes a certain feeling. But its not better quality.

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Post by volkl48 »

loeg wrote: post #80
volkl48 wrote: post #51

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The Mustang is from before modern safety laws (and feature expectations) and therefore weighed a lot less than your average modern car. A stock '66 Mustang hardtop had a curb weight below 3000lb, in the lightest configuration close to 2500lb. Less mass to move will do a lot for efficiency just like aerodynamics will. Of course, you will also die or be horrifically maimed in an accident in a 1966 Mustang that you migh…

But this conversion is basically just a Tesla model 3 with the shell taken off and a mustang shell installed over. It's mostly a model 3, including the heavy battery and drivetrain. And airbags.

Unless I've missed something here, there are clearly no airbags in the passenger seat or anywhere else in the upper shell (side curtain, etc) from skimming around the video/interior shots.

I guess there's probably still one in the stock Tesla steering wheel/unit.

You also have none of the heavy structure that makes it so you don't die in a rollover or side-impact in a modern car. Look at how skinny that A-pillar is.

Hell, half of this interior is just the raw exposed sheet metal with no insulation/noise-dampening/softer materials either.

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