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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by bombcar »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #109
wg0 wrote: post #54

I'm stepping away from LLMs in general and did cancel Claude code subscription this month because I respect myself very much and I deserve a better and transparent treatment. If you must - in my experience Deepseek v4 is incredible value in every aspect. Pricing is transparent. But like I said, I have funds in different AI gateways but I'm preferring to write by hand because I don't want surprising bugs and unnecessa…

I did this and I use small local models as a productivity booster. It's been refreshing

Hints or tips on how to start with local models? I’m considering a new MacBook Pro and wondering if I should take that into account.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by ryandrake »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #132
slopinthebag wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are close to Opus, not Sonnet.

The little qwen36 is at sonnet level . Kimi2.6 is about opus. The one can run on a single GPU on your gaming pc. The other you can run way cheaper from a provider. Or if you are really wealthy and have lots of gpus can run it yourself. Not sure where deepseek 4 sits

Would "lots of gpus" even help for huge models? Maybe this is exposing my lack of knowledge but don't you need to keep the whole model and context in a single GPU's VRAM? My understanding is that multiple GPUs help with scaling (can handle N X inference requests simultaneously) but it doesn't help with using large models. If that were the case, I could jam another GPU in my box and double the size of model I can serve.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by bombcar »

g4cg54g54 wrote: post #60

same vain as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47952722 ? HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing 1203 points | 21 hours ago | 524 comments @bcherny well need a bit more than a "Fixed" here... https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/53262#issue...

Sounds exactly like what you’d get if you asked Vlaude how to detect OpenClaw usage.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by Insanity »

esperent wrote: post #15
Insanity wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have better PR than OpenAI but they are not a more ethical company. They do a bunch of shady stuff and are just as much involved in military applications. Cal Newport’s recent podcast had a good discussion about this: https://youtu.be/BRr3pAPsQAk?si=jaRJYJ_XQE7VpxPN

Pet peeve of mine is people saying "hey this thing is totally shady/false, I've got proof right here links to hour long podcast >". It happens surprisingly often.

I understand not everyone has the interest or time to sit through an hour long podcast. But last I checked this is HN, and I think that podcast is right up the alley for many of us here. Cal Newport is not exactly a 'random podcaster'.

Next time I can summarize some of the talking points in my comment though, but I didn't want to poorly regurgitate the arguments when they were readily available in the video lol.

Although I see another poster has commented the key takeaways :)

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by avarun »

rexpop wrote: post #26
esperent wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pet peeve of mine is people saying "hey this thing is totally shady/false, I've got proof right here links to hour long podcast >". It happens surprisingly often.

Cal Newport and tech commentator Ed Zitron discussed this disparity between Anthropic's public image and their actual practices. Despite cultivating a reputation as the "ethical" AI company, Zitron argues that Anthropic's actions show they are just as ruthless and ethically questionable as their competitors. Anthropic has been deeply integrated with the US military, having been installed with classified access since…

Ed Zitron has absolutely zero credibility, meaning these claims have zero credibility.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by ffsm8 »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #132
slopinthebag wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are close to Opus, not Sonnet.

The little qwen36 is at sonnet level . Kimi2.6 is about opus. The one can run on a single GPU on your gaming pc. The other you can run way cheaper from a provider. Or if you are really wealthy and have lots of gpus can run it yourself. Not sure where deepseek 4 sits

Please don't oversell them. Eg Kimi k2.6 has a maximum context size of 270k, that's a quarter of opus.

The model is fine, Ive switched to it entirely for a personal project, but it's not opus.

And no, you're not running then locally unless you're a millionaire. You still need hundreds of GB (500+++) of VRAM on your graphics card - that's not at a level of consumer electronics.

Sure you can run the quantized models, but then you're at Haiku performance.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by rglullis »

reckless wrote: post #94
maxbond wrote: post #71

This is very concerning. Their heavy handed tactics haven't impacted me personally yet but I am increasingly nervous and casting about for viable egress paths if I need to flee Claude Code. I really hope they pump the breaks and thoroughly reorient themselves. They are under a lot of competing pressures and probably can't make a decision that won't upset a lot of people (in order to balance growth and capacity etc),…

Codex has been great for me

Anything coming from OpenAI is an automatic "Hell, no!" for me.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by GolfPopper »

rickydroll wrote: post #40
rexpop wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cal Newport and tech commentator Ed Zitron discussed this disparity between Anthropic's public image and their actual practices. Despite cultivating a reputation as the "ethical" AI company, Zitron argues that Anthropic's actions show they are just as ruthless and ethically questionable as their competitors. Anthropic has been deeply integrated with the US military, having been installed with classified access since…

I think all the AI companies want to hook up with the US military, as it's the only way they'll cover their debt. For investors.

"You must destroy the economy to keep us afloat, because National Security!" has been a clear goal of the LLM hucksters for a long time.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by sunnybeetroot »

wg0 wrote: post #54

I'm stepping away from LLMs in general and did cancel Claude code subscription this month because I respect myself very much and I deserve a better and transparent treatment. If you must - in my experience Deepseek v4 is incredible value in every aspect. Pricing is transparent. But like I said, I have funds in different AI gateways but I'm preferring to write by hand because I don't want surprising bugs and unnecessa…

You can use an LLM, review the code and therefore avoid surprising bugs and unnecessary code in your end result.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by Insanity »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #62
esperent wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pet peeve of mine is people saying "hey this thing is totally shady/false, I've got proof right here links to hour long podcast >". It happens surprisingly often.

Probably some Slopcoded bot which posts fake comments to drive people to their content. After all, if you’re paying hundreds of millions to buy these shitty podcasts, you might as well host some bots.

Did you even check the link? It's a podcast from Cal Newport, a quite known figure (at least in software engineering / compsci circles). So it's not exactly a random shitty podcast. And, it's also (obviously) not my content.
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