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Anthropic Joins the Blender Development Fund as Corporate Patron

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Post by augment_me »

dilDDoS wrote: post #150
augment_me wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every generation has a new baseline. The younger generation will not be able to imagine having anything other than doctors and psychologists in the phone, and they are content with it because it's all they know. Social media might be all the social connection they have, and that will be the best thing where they will have the best experiences, they won't know another baseline. Eventually maybe the best experiences wi…

> Eventually maybe the best experiences will be had with digital companions, etc. Obviously I can't speak for all of Gen Z (and I realize we're no longer "the younger generation"), but my friends and I don't want any part of this, and feel optimistic rather than bitter that things won't go the way you're describing. I seldom meet anyone in my age group that isn't talking about moving away from social media, cancellin…

Talking about and doing something are different things. What are the social and market structures around your friends that lets them avoid having a smartphone, cancelling subscriptions, and uninstalling everything? Do you see this getting better with media consolidations from Substack(Andreassen), Twitter(Musk), and Youtube channels by the hyperscalars/billionaries and questionable merges like Paramount and Warner Bros?

When the social culture is based around platforms and content that has subscriptions, and when media and what you see is consolidated, you can't just exit without losing a big part of the social context because the people around you are eating the same thing.

I dislike slop as much as anyone else. I think it puts a higher burden on the receiver of information to filter the signal in a pile of trash. I just don't really see an actual way out if you look at it from a societal level with the existing structures and incentives.

Re: Anthropic Joins the Blender Development Fund as Corporate Patron

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Post by JKCalhoun »

mossTechnician wrote: post #104
JKCalhoun wrote: post #88

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We (I) need that. "Some software" is approaching levels of complexity where, perhaps, it gets to a point where a human is barely able to even use it. At the same time (brave new world) LLM assisted software opens up the possibility of levels of complexity we would not have considered before.

I disagree that anyone should need LLMs for Blender, for example, because Blender is designed by people to be understood and used by people, even if it requires a learning curve. It sounds a bit dangerous to build new things we don't understand, or worse, reduce our understanding of what we currently use because (only after studying our use of the same technology) an LLM apears able to replicate it, mostly. I'm remin…

I propose that, for some software, the learning curve is becoming harder to surmount.

Further, I'm suggesting "designed by people to be understood and used by people" might be a hurdle for some future software we might envision.

(Altman's performance is orthogonal as I'm suggesting a new level of software that has not yet been written/conceived.)

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Post by ncr100 »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #65
dsign wrote: post #40

Can you imagine going to a football match and second-guessing which are the players who look human, but skin-deep are actually androids made at a factory? This is what it feels like with music and literature right now with so much AI. There are some pockets where you still can say "that's human-made", like 3D-rendered feature films with some particular artistic direction. That, it seems, AI companies also want it to…

Yesterday I saw a clip that went "viral" of a few hogs chased by a humanoid robot somewhere in Poland. I had to watch it a few times to figure out if it was real or generated. I still wasn't 100% sure. Asked around in a group, and apparently it's been widely reported on regular news, so I guess it's real? But we're slowly getting to the point where you won't be able to tell, especially from a short clip on a phone.

Yes, and tx for sharing the experience of the hog video - recommended to me too and I chose not to click, as I did not want the frustration of seeing another "tech run amuck" example, of tech disrupting YET ANOTHER norm.

Relatedly, IMO "trust" as a word / concept is deserving of being reevaluated nowadays.

E.g. I don't know that you, NitpickLawyer, are a real person. And when I go through the mental exercise of inventing the details, proofs, and evidence I'd need in order to satisfy my doubt, I never succeed until I reach the physical-contact-with-NitpickLawyer condition.

So I think we need to evaluate what is necessary for oneself to operate in society, separate from these untrustable things .. such as media / news reports, and all the other things I just don't want to worry about, right now. :-(

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Post by ncr100 »

augment_me wrote: post #112
PoorRustDev wrote: post #107

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“No one cares” except for all the people bringing up that they care.

Since they are up against a insurmountable mountain of capital which will commoditize and optimize whatever it wants, they are kind of in for a pointless fight with an inevitable end. They could save themselves a lot of despair if they saw the writing on the wall and pivoted to something that still has value, or accepted the new reality instead of throwing a fit.

That is too difficult as the concept (of trusting one's perception) is, I believe, intertwined deeply with other aspects of being human, for many people.

It's not reasonable to require that those people be mentally organized in a manner that already mistrusts reality, in a healthy manner.

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Post by Kye »

modeless wrote: post #134
SyneRyder wrote: post #48

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Anthropic just posted a video 1 hour ago of their own official MCP integration with Blender: https://youtu.be/LZMWsZbZU5w

Artists mad about AI art ought to welcome this. This is about making art tools better, instead of replacing them entirely. The alternative to this is AI just generating art directly and making tools like Blender obsolete.

Art generators need to come a long way to completely replace art tools. I dabble, but if I were doing real work with it, there have been times it would have been faster to composite in a 3D model rather than keep trying to prompt an image generator into fixing something.

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Post by ncr100 »

tempaccount5050 wrote: post #52
dsign wrote: post #40

Can you imagine going to a football match and second-guessing which are the players who look human, but skin-deep are actually androids made at a factory? This is what it feels like with music and literature right now with so much AI. There are some pockets where you still can say "that's human-made", like 3D-rendered feature films with some particular artistic direction. That, it seems, AI companies also want it to…

The pearl clutching over the pedigree of art is getting tiring. No one has really ever cared. Most mainstream music is written by corporate teams. Elvis didn't write his own music. Frank Sinatra didn't write his own music. Nearly all pop artists don't. But suddenly, people are now clamoring for art, but they never gave a shit to begin with. Most people can't tell AI written music from anything else if a human perform…

Check out this album, especially Bernard's Boogie, and Horses.

- https://donnybenet.bandcamp.com/album/il-basso

Totally not written by Google.

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Post by all2 »

sassymuffinz wrote: post #151
magicalhippo wrote: post #127

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Or it might allow proficient blender users to become more productive, resulting in higher detailed scenes for the same budget. We'll see how it shakes out. As a non-proficient Blender user, I'm kinda keen on this since I have had a lot of ideas that I haven't been able to realize in Blender.

So reducing budgets and suppressing wages then, what a great deal for the workers who have specialised in this field and who's work and effort the LLM has been trained on to replace them!

This is like arguing we should only have manual looms because the mechanical looms suppress wages and destroy the livelihoods of those expert loom operators.

The tech is here. We can fight it, or adapt and embrace it.

If previous examples from the industrial revolution are anything to go by, fighting automation is a losing battle.

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Post by conductr »

Raed667 wrote: post #10

> improve foundational features like the Blender Python API, which enables developers and artists alike So they want claude to be able to talk to blender

I want claude to talk to blender, I personally hate using blender but love it's outputs

Re: Anthropic Joins the Blender Development Fund as Corporate Patron

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

I just wanted to note a couple of things

1. That looks great and I hope they can make blender even better, or pay people to do that. Raise your rates for corps Blender!

2. What does this have to do with any strategic position for Claude. Their goals are

“Enterprises pay us a fortune to either

1. Sift through unbelievable volumes of data to pick out fairly easy to find nuggets

2. Tell everyone their jobs are at risk to keep them in line”

There is no other play. AGI is science fiction.

So why are they launching this? Because they don’t have a strategic core running through - it’s always been “wow what else can this do”. That’s a research project at the price of billion dollar data centres.

Unless we do achieve AGI (which we won’t) the price tag is way beyond the returns we are seeing.

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