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Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Imagine the balls it took to willingly attach the Microsoft label to the front of the product that is Teams.

I mean the same can be said about most versions of Windows as well. People act like Windows 11 is where it all went sour, but I've personally kind of hated it since Windows XP. I feel like a recurring pattern with Microsoft is to create something quickly, market it aggressively and push for everyone to use it immediately, and only once it is installed everywhere do people suddenly realize how terrible it is, but it's…

I'm surprised you picked XP as the falling point. I didn't enjoy the days of reinstalling 95/98/ME every 6 months to avoid driver weirdness and seemingly random failures. XP was built on the foundation of 2000, which tended to make it more robust vs. its predecessors.

Vista on the other hand...

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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The 60-minute single-pass transcription is the part that actually matters. Most ASR models chunk audio and you lose speaker continuity across boundaries. If the diarization actually holds up on hour-long recordings without drifting, thats a real solve for podcast and meeting transcription workflows.

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This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.

It is not good for text to speech (TTS) as well. I am trying it for few days. First of all 1.5B model documentation is not there. 0.5B realtime is shit model. I was converting text, line by line and it was randomly adding music and couldn't handle special characters like "…". I really disappointed with this model to say the least.

yep, it seems this was trained on large amount of podcasts with ad jingles or phone call queues with elevator music. I was also pretty disappointed to run the TTS last week.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.

Yes, the SOTA is currently much more advanced.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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I mean the same can be said about most versions of Windows as well. People act like Windows 11 is where it all went sour, but I've personally kind of hated it since Windows XP. I feel like a recurring pattern with Microsoft is to create something quickly, market it aggressively and push for everyone to use it immediately, and only once it is installed everywhere do people suddenly realize how terrible it is, but it's…

I'm surprised you picked XP as the falling point. I didn't enjoy the days of reinstalling 95/98/ME every 6 months to avoid driver weirdness and seemingly random failures. XP was built on the foundation of 2000, which tended to make it more robust vs. its predecessors. Vista on the other hand...

I mean, part of it is that I really hated the Fisher Price look to it, but it was also the first time I ever felt like I had to "hack" things to make stuff work. I had to muck with registry keys. Oh, and it was the first time that I noticed that Windows repair tools do not work.

I suspect I might have hated 9x more but I was pretty young when they came out and I didn't really "get into" computers until XP, and I disliked it enough to dual-boot Linux as a twelve year old.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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To be fair, his Midas touch is a result of consistency and a lot of hard work. It's like the gardener at one of the Oxford colleges said - it's really easy to create these perfect lawns, just turn up every day and trim and water it - for a couple hundred years.

I thought they rolled it as well?

As always with people: listen to what they say, not to what they do...

After all, they rarely do what they say themselves, so it's surely not entirely made up nonsense!

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I don't understand this either. The GPL doesn't address end users and their use of software at all, to be technical. It only addresses what terms of copyright redistributors of GPLed software are allowed to apply in-turn to subsequent end users.

The point of the Free in free software was always to protect the users of the software, not the vendors or the redistributors. (This is why the license focuses on the redistributors -- the mechanisms of the license limit their rights in order to protect others' rights.) The first sentence of the GNU manifesto says this, and a few sections later in the document elaborate on the point: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto…

I see your point and I agree. It's just that when you say "GPLv3 says that you can only use the software if it's either a cloud service, hypothetical open firmware devices" that's a stretch and not really true. AIUI vendors can pre-install GPLv3 software as long as they let you actually then replace the software (i.e. no DRM or locked bootloader). The firmware can still be non-GPL and non-replaceable. You just can't use GPLv3 code in the non-replaceable bootloader or firmwares.
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